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Final-Fan said:
Aeolus451 said:

It's the picture they are trying to paint with that stuff that's important. You just can't see past the paint. All of the sources I used had a ton of articles/blogs like those that suggest that they have an agenda. 

My point isn't that your conclusion is wrong.  My point is that the evidence you cited is insufficient to justify the claim.  Therefore I am unconvinced by your argument. 

When you say "suggest they have an agenda", what do you mean by that?  Because I am wondering if you just saw someone pile up a bunch of confirmation bias.  With the major news sites, you could probably cherry pick enough stuff to make Fox look like Mother Jones.  Maybe they did it all scientific-like, but I have not yet been convinced. 

I wasn't listing those sources as absolute evidence with the goal of proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're trying to vilify or demonize white males (let's be honest about that no matter how much you list, some people will not be convinced no matter what) but rather as samples to perhaps make others curious about it so they do research on their own. We're not in a court of law. Some of those sources definitely have an agenda with this stuff or a strong bias. It's sort of a common sense.

I have no interest in wasting my time trying to convince an ideologue or a stubborn person. If someone is intelligent or open minded enough to entertain different ideas, they'll look into it themselves if you show enough to interest them. 

Who's the group of people that a lot of progressive circles point to as the boogieman who's out to get you, use as a pinata for people's frustrations, set up as a literal strawman? White males.