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DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

At this point I'm just arguing with a brick wall of ps loyalists, so I might as well just not continue this argument. Thank you and have a good day.

edit: the guy who left the site left because of all this, and I don't blame him.

Yes we Sony loyalist are incapable to accept rumor and wishes as hard cold evidence.

Machiavellian said:

So when Sony gets all these 3rd party exclusives, how do you think they occur.  Do you believe that MS made no effort to get these games on their system or do you believe these business out of the goodness of their heart just decide to only develop on the PS system ignoring revenue on other systems.  When MS pay a studio to make a game for them, its MS nothing having a strong First Party system, when Sony does it, its smart business.  The real key is that there is a lot of hypocritical statement from gamers because they do not even see they have fallen into Fandom.  They pick a side and they ignore the practices of that side and see a corporation as benevolent.

This is the industry and maybe Phil should not said he doesn’t favor doing what he has to do in the industry because that is how the game is played.  We can find many statements from corporate execs where they probably wish they just kept their mouth shut because gamers latch onto those statements, twist them to their own purpose or just totally misrepresent what is stated.  Right now in this thread you have a bunch of people calling Phil a liar because he said he doesn’t favor doing these types of moves as if he stated he doesn’t do them.  Not liking something but having to do it anyway because that is how the game is played is totally different.

The point of this thread isn't calling Phil a liar, but a hipocrite.

He said they are investing in 1st party, talked against exclusivity deals and that it's bad to put up games on stage that will take a long time to release... and he have done all 3 very short after he said those. Nothing about MS doing their best to secure content they think will drive sales for them.

First Phil said he was not in favor of doing deals that permanately locks content away from other systems.  As been hashed out previously people seem to have their own interpretation of what the term CONTENT means.  He never said he did not favor making publishing agreement with 3rd party companies since he has done that for multiple projects not just PUG.

As I stated in my post, Many have made reference to his comments and either called him a liar, hypocritical or both based on his tweets and statements.  Even the OG of this post made reference to those comments.  

What is interesting is that this is any news.  We know MS makes exclusive contracts with 3rd party developers just like Sony and Nintendo.  People believe that this is something new that MS may be in talks extending their publishing agreement with a client especially if the agreement is only for 3 months.  Really, if you are going to make an agreement to have a game exclusive on your system for a period of time 3 months seems like nothing.  People forget that MS is the publisher for this game on the Xbox system.  Meaning that they are probably funding development for the X1 version as well as marketing and other auxiliary items.

The same people condemning MS for making a publishing agreement for the game on the X1 are the same ones who would have praised Sony for doing the same thing since they are also in talks to get the game on their system.  Also how does this not benefit the Xbox ecosystem.  If Sony gets 3rd party exclusives on their console whether they fund them or just because they are Japanese company its all good because they are looking to extend the games on their system.  When MS does the exact same thing, they are desperate.  All the major players look to get successful games on their platform whether 3rd, 1st or 2nd.  It just seems only Sony gets a pass when they do the same thing and everyone else is just greedy.