I actually kind of like both the shows. The Orville is pure fan-made original Star Trek, but that's a niche that someone needs to fill at the moment. I think Seth Mcfarlane isn't particularly convincing as the captain, but I do like some of the characters (especially the security officer) and still enjoy it more than most shows on TV (damning with faint praise, I know).
I only watched one episode of Discovery so I can't judge it as a series, but it seemed interesting. I didn't particularly like the main character and found her overly abrasive (though I'm a big fan of Michelle Yeoh, so anyone pushing her around naturally arouses my irritation) yet I found the direction they were pushing the Klingons in fairly interesting, though I do hope the writers grant them more depth than simply being terroristic warmongers. The Klingons are warlike, yes, but their culture grew fairly deep during TNG. I do find there is too much lens flare, but I enjoyed the Abrams Star Treks and don't mind the flashy cinematography.
I think both shows could definitely improve, but I'd like to see both get the opportunity to grow.
