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Machiavellian on 26 September 2017
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DonFerrari said:
Machiavellian said:

Easy because that platform is a games only platform.  Second it has absoluly no competition for VR on that platform.  Third, it was the cheaper option out of any of the devices at that time.  Remember the PSVR was 399 on the PS4 while the OR and ViVe were close to a grand, huge differece in price.  Now you have prices falling for both the Vive, OR and the new headsets by MS.  On the PS4, Sony can price the PSVR agressive because they can take a hit for marketshare.  On the PC they cannot because they do not get the money back by game sales or from their exclusives.

You tell me what advantages the PSVR has in the PC space.  What will drive sales of the PSVR over the better hardware in the OR, VIve and MS Mixed Reality.  What exclusive content they are going to bring over to the PC space that will separate their device from the others.  On the PS4, they have an exclusive base, on the PC they have nothing.

Sorry Machiavelian but we have had for over one year several PC enthusiasts here on this forum saying Gaming PC is bigger than PS4+X1, that they have over 100M gaming PCs topping specs of PS4.

So PC would be a bigger market even when considering only gaming, and since Oculus and Vive can be used to other type of content besides gaming then the size of the market would be even bigger.

If you sum OR and Vive they still have less unit sold and a lot more shelf time than PSVR and weren't able to outsell PSVR that is still supply constrained.

I don't really have to tell you much of the advantages since the numbers support my claim that Sony marketing and selling PSVR also on PC would increase their lead on VR market, because that wouldn't take away from its sales on console, but would add on PC (that if they improve production rate).

But I wasn't the one that made the point that for Sony to make the market grow more for others they should open PS4 to other VR offers and also should offer their on PC. My point is that it would in fact probably make it worse for the others instead of better.

Yes, PC gaming is bigger but its not relative.  Meaning you have way more options on the PC for gaming.  You have your indie, AAA, mid tier budget you name it but VR is just one of many and currently at the time when the PSVR came out it was also the most expensive.  It required a beast of a PC and a device that cost more than most people PC and console conbined.  

You cannot tell me that cost of the device does not play a huge role for adoption.  Also the PC specs for the device was way higher than the average PC gamer has if you go by steam stats.  Only now are the prices coming down and I believe they will come down even more when MS partners enter the market with their Mix reality headsets.  I know I was very tempted to get the OR when it dropped to 399 but decided to wait to see how the market matures before buy in.

The thing is Sony has no weight in the PC market.  If they enter now they would not have the cheaper device.  They would also not have the best hardware because all of the PC OEMs has better tech.  MS mixed reality goes beyound with a built in camera for AR and better optics per eye.  Sony does not have any PC exclusives.  You are using the PS4 which is a closed device as an indication that Sony auto wins in the PC space as if the two markets are the same.  Could you give one good example why someone would purchase the PSVR on the PC over the other offerings.  If you believe Sony names just auto wins and people will purchase from that alone, I believe you are not looking at the 2 markets in the right way.