German election tomorrow

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GoOnKid said:

 

Lafiel said:

hm .. imo Merkel is a true conservative and as such she does stand for  "things are going well, so let's change nothing"

Right. I am very happy that she doesn't need some sort of agenda to push like building a wall or such nonsense. She stands for professionalism and sobriety. Since she runs the country germany executes much better economically and regained a lot of international trust. Don't fucking up a country means picking the right decisions every day, which is by far not as easy as some may think. It's also worth mentioning that this is a time where she opposes to far rights throughout the entire world, not only within germany, and she's doing very fine.

What are her approval ratings? I can't find anything recent

vivster said:

Mnementh said:

Flip-flopping on nuclear power shows that it is more moving along the lines of public opinion. The description earlier in this thread as pebble in the river is surprisingly fitting.

But isn't that what true democracy is all about? Acting upon issues when things are changing and the majority of the people speak out on important issues. One could say Merkel is one of the few truly democratic leaders that's not just bound to her party or voters, but all citizens.

It's quite sad how people think they 'expose' leaders if they change their fucking mind. I see conservatives constantly talk about how Hillary was actually homophobic because she thought only men/women should get married...in the 90's.

 

There comes a time where a leader who can adapt is much more respectable than one who is never willing to change

Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Merkel has been one of the greatest European leaders in the last 50 years. Germany has one of the strongest economies in the world. Merkel will remain German Chancellor for a very long time.

It's honestly disappointing to me that she's considered a conservative in Europe. Trump is an absolute joke, and I'd happily take someone like her.

Barozi said:

LurkerJ said:
Good to have you Germans condescending to Americans politics and lecturing us about which party is evil and which is nice. Newsflash, there's only one party in the USA, corporatists and lobbyists run the show. Moreover, I'd take those so-called neo-nazis over Islam apologists/importers any day of the week.

Americans are lucky their immigration problems are mainly related benign Mexicans crossing their imaginary border, we'll see how "progressive" Europe become when Islamists stop being a "minority", which is happening sooner than anyone has predicted.

Really? With only ~4% of the EU population being moslems, that would take centuries to change.
Soon....lol

But according to Paul Joseph Watson and Infowars, Muslims are already conquering Europe!!!1! I read it on Facebook two!!!!1!!one!1!

LadyJasmine said:

I am getting tired of people here talking about the amazing virtues of the German Model of boring politics...

A fierce debate in how society should conduct itself is healthy...

There are other models that work just as well or even better...

The Canadian model allows for debate and disagreement and we have a normal country that is consistently ranked above Germany as a great place to live.

The idea that you must have always have a  consensus centrist coalition and no actual serious disagreements is rather boring.

Here in Canada, the major split is left vs right and it is a true contrast of ideas and direction for the country and gives people a clear choice.

For example, the choice would be yes to more refugees or no to more refugees in the next election between the two main parties and that causes a lot of debate, anger and division but people have a clear choice.

 

Nothing wrong with not turning everything into a black and white situation. Why should it simply be more or less refugees? Perhaps actually expanding on issues and having more varied solutions would be better for everyone