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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

1. I still honestly do not know how you can misrepresent the Mario Kart example so badly after having it explained to you, I guess you either like fallacies or just don't get it. 

 2. It's so ironic to me that you deduced my argument down to make it look stupid, when my argument was using your own logic.

3. It's seriously frustrating when my entire point was "attach rates suck, stop using them, but even if we did use them Nintendo attach rates are improving, but we shouldn't use them-" and that's cut off with "LOOK AT YOU USING ATTACH RATES HERE ARE ALL MY ARGUMENTS ATTACH RATES ARE IN ALL OF THEM!" 

4. Oh and uh ... by the way ... do you want to talk about the n64? Or is that somehow "off limits" because 32 million isn't enough? lol

5. I've already explained this, but Black Ops 3 is *not* the closest comparison to WW2. Stop messing with the entries to try and make an illogical point.

6. Oh, and by the way, Black Ops 3 was at over a million pre-orders this time in 2015. WW2 is at 250k. Infinite Warfare was at 150k. Go figure.

Wait a minute ... I just said I would stop arguing. And I just .. argued. Oh well. Just wanted to point  out how ridiculous this was getting.

But anyways, I'm done. 

1. I don't get what you are trying to say then. 

2. It's pretty much impossible to refute a reductio ad absurdum without addressing your own logic. I showed how the logic of your argument wasn't exactly the logic of my own argument. That makes your counter argument an unintended strawman. 

3. Well I agree that attach rates can't be used to 100% accurracy. That's why I said that there was a small chance of SMO outselling CoD despite attach rates. Anyway, sorry for coming off that way. I really didn't mean to respond with "HERE ARE ALL MY ARGUMENTS WITH ATTACH RATES! I"M IGNORING WHAT YOU SAID ENTIRELY LOLOLOLOL!"

4. Nah, we can talk about N64. Nothing off limits about that. 

5. I'm open to the idea that Black Ops III is not a good comparison to CoD WWII. 

6. Now that's new information that I did not know. I guess we will have to wait and see. Black Ops III sold well because the CoD community has always held the Black Ops games (and all the Treyarch CoD games in general) in high regard. I'm assuming here that since CoD: WWII has a similar name to CoD: World at War that most casuals will associate it with Treyarch without looking. But then again maybe casuals aren't that dumb. Your pre-order information would imply that they aren't, but who pre-orders games? Is it always the hardcore players, or just the casuals? If a large majority of pre-orders come from hardcore gamers, then point six could be meaningless. If pre-orders come largely from casuals, then that does not bode well for CoD: WWII. 

Edit: Oh and don't fret about me responding to any further responses for a while. I'm nearly at 1000 posts, and I want to make an "introduce yourself" thread about it, but I need to take pictures of my collection. So it'll be a while.