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Turkish on 22 September 2017
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StarDoor said:
Turkish said:

Hardware wise PSP was better, a generation better. And when it had Western support it was selling as good and even outselling the DS. There was nothing wrong with the hardware, it just lacked the games, both from Sony and 3rd party. DS piracy wasn't nearly as big an issue as on the PSP, getting pirated games on the DS was many times harder than on PSP, not to mention it came much later. Nintendo didn't have a console like PS3 and Bluray to save so I dunno why you brought up the Wii. Nintendo had the fortune to attract millions of non-gamers (which they lost a generation later), they were comfortable. Perhaps too comfortable as they ran into trouble later. The PSP did amazing considering it outsold or sold as much as any other Nintendo handheld, even the original Gameboy, if you dissect its total sales around 40 to 50 million of it is from the GBC.

PSP was a better handheld, and it had the better games in my opinion.

Bolded 1: Okay, what the hell are you talking about? PSP was never outselling DS. The closest it got was right after launch in 2005 when it sold 9.61 million versus the DS selling 10.99 million. But then the next year the DS started crushing it with 20.78 million versus the PSP at 9.49 million. PSP was never outselling DS. It was almost selling as well as DS at the very beginning of their lives, but that lasted less than a year.

Bolded 2: Yeah, and I guess DS Lite is the best selling video game console ever, once you dissect the 70 million PS2 Slims. Actually, that probably means that Wii sold more than PS2 as well, since the original Wii model sold around 90 million on its own before Wii mini came out.

Ah, mah bad, then I rememba vronk. But neither the PS2 nor the DS Lite are a console of its own like the Gameboy color, according to this list there are 100s of GBC only games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_Boy_Color_games

So yeah GBC is a console of its own, and the top comment here explains that about 48M of GB sales are from the GBC https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/54pivd/gameboy_color_sales/

superchunk said:
Turkish said:

It should be noted that the PSP sold more than the 3DS ever will. And yeah piracy killed it (and Sony never really being committed, saving PS3 was bigger priority). For a few years PSP was very competitive against the DS, even outselling it iirc, but then came the CFW.

PSP was a revolutionary device back in 2004. A widescreen LCD, PS2 like graphics, joystick, movie/mp3 player, internet browser, the XMB. Coming from a purple non-backlit gba it was crazy.

Bolded is not a fact.

PSP sold 81MM units.
3DS around 65MM and still has at least 2 more years of availability on the market. (including 2DS).
They still sell at $199 for XL versions. Nintendo has tons of margin and profit.

Sure, I expect 3DS support from Nintendo to dry up on 2018 as focus is 100% on Switch. But, that doesn't mean it won't continue to be markted and recieve various other games through 2019. Then you have the price drop off over those years which will continue to make it a good seller.

3DS can very easily match/exceed PSP lifetime.

After this year the 3DS will drop like a rock, I expect 3-4M at most next year, and then discontinued in 2019, except maybe Japan.

Also those PSP sales are horribly outdated me thinks, like 6 years outdated.