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DonFerrari said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, it's a little less of an achievement, in my eyes, for DRIVECLUB to be ahead of Forza. PS4's userbase is a big help and the system lacks an abundance of its own racers.

At the time DC released the userbase wasn't that much different and considering the low attach ratio the difference in userbase is neglible. And sure few titles help. But a lot of people consider DC a flop, but the 2M+ sales isn't that bad and was able to outsell the best seller of the competitor.

ThisGuyFooks said:

Considering there has been Four Forza games released on the Xbox One: (2) Forza Motorsport's and (2) Forza Horizon's, can we really consider Forza 7 a System Seller?

Basically, anyone who wanted to buy an Xbox One to play a Forza game had 4 chances to do it, and most likely they already bought one.

A Forza 7 Bundle is coming, but i wonder how effective will be as a System Seller.

I dont think the Xbox One will be taking an NPD this year, not with that Line Up.

With Nintendo releasing Mario Odyssey this holidays, the gap will be closing by the millions.

I wouldn't ever consider FM7 a system seller myself. And yes you are absolutelly right that it won't push much system (perhaps for the enhancements for X1X it will help it).

flashfire926 said:

Forza horizon 2 (inclining the Xbox 360 version) and Forza Horizon 3 have both outsold driveclub.

Are we going to compare 2 versions of FH2 to DC on sales? DC is considered a flop and FH and FM runaway sucess and yet when looking at numbers on current state the difference isn't so expressive.

DC isn't considered a flop because of its sales, it's because of the huge mess it was at launch.  Which is a big shame since since then Driveclub has become one of the best racers this gen. I'm 90% sure Sony said it sold well. In my eyes it's not a flop. Also selling 2m is a bigger feat on a 30 million console rather than a 60 million console.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.