Miyamotoo said:
I meant fact that's announcement of new game in any case. Again, full handheld mode for 3rd party ports gave to those game hole new dimension, some people would easily do double dip or even wait Switch version in order to play those game in full handheld mode. We already saw here some people that wrote that wanted PS4 version of Wolfenstein 2 but they will wait for Switch version. For instance you already have people that have Skyrim on PS4 or even PS3, but again some of those people will buy that game on Switch, because they will have game they will able to play everywhere they want. You will mainle have two dirent type of people that will buy multiplatform games on Switch, people who want to play those game on the go in full handheld mode and people who don't have other platforms to play those games. Totaly difrent things, PS3 had slow start becuse very high price, after price cuts PS3 started selling. Xbox360 lost postion beacuse MS slowed down with support while Sony actualy gave huge suport to PS3 basicly until PS4 didnt arived. You could say something similar for Wii, when Nintendo slowed down and stoped suporting Wii, Wii stoped to sell. But all those cases are difrent from what we are saying, offcourse that Nintendo will not stop suporting Switch in 2018. But again, those totally different things, it's much easier to keep momentum than try to save platform. Again, you dont have any reason to suspect that Switch will lose momentum in 2018.There is zero sense to release 3DS successor that will be part of different platform from Switch, Nintendo basically unified their handheld and home platforms with Switch, we could have 3DS succsor in form Switch Mini/Pocket, but that means same games. Of Course that Nintendo will have smaller and bigger games and system seller games like always, but this time it will be bigger number of games all together, Nintendo always have those game I dont see why you assume it will be difrent with Switch, Switch could just lead to biger number of relases. But Wii had quite solid 3rd party support (it had dosens of Fifa, NBA, NFS, NHL, CoD...games), and offcourse that it wouldnt had so many of those game sif it didnt sell well. But if compare Wii and Switch, whats exalty is different if talk about 3rd party ports!? Fact that Switch is much closer to power to curent console than Wii ever was, fact that Switch support all modern tech and engines that modern games are using and that of course wasn't case with Wii, so porting current next games to Switch is much easier compared to Wii and PS3/Xbox360 games, that why we alredy have ananucments of games like Skyrim or Doom. And devs alone see that Swich gave totaly new dimension to their games compared to PS4/XB1 version of game. And like I wrote, after Wii U faile many 3rd partys taked "wait and see aprouch" with Switch, and how Switch conitinue to sell good and instal base is getiing bigger we will have more and more ananucments, definatly next year we will have much more ananucments. And I alredy wrote you who will buy those games, "You will mainle have two dirent type of people that will buy multiplatform games on Switch, people who want to play those game on the go in full handheld mode and people who don't have other platforms to play those games". Of Course that everyone will not buy (lol), but full handheld mode for those games is game changer for some people. No you still don't get it, Nintendo wanted to show 2D Kirby game and they show it, they still dont want to show other Q1 games. Nothing strange about that, they done similar things all time with Switch.
Again, you are trying very hard, but you don't have any reasons for such doubts or concerns. |
Even if it's a game that hasn't been out, in the end, when it actually launches, it will be the same as a port: out in last and when the other versions already had a good time on sale (not to forget that, in this case, the Holidays will have passed).
It didn't start it's life as a port, but it will live as one.
There's no real value in using people on forums to help prove or disprove something.
Yes, people will wait, but you're making it look like portability is this amazing thing that people never had before and they just got to have it now.
I don't know if you saw, but NOA had a poll to see where Switch owners felt was the best place to game, and surprise, surprise, the vast majority chose home as their best place to game.
The PS3, Wii, XB360 example - you could even add PS1 and 3DS to the list - was only to show that the way you start doesn't automatically tell how the future is going to be. Whatever the reason may be that causes a change, stuff might happen to will make your console rise or fall in sales.
" it's much easier to keep momentum than try to save platform"
I'm not sure it's that easier.
At the end of the day either you have the library of games that people want or you don't. If you do, you can keep momentum or save your platform. If you don't, you will lose momentum or you won't be able to make your console's sales take off.
"Again, you dont have any reason to suspect that Switch will lose momentum in 2018"
And here we go again! :D
Besides Kirby, Yoshi, FE, what other games has Nintendo actually confirmed for 2018?
How many heavy hitter, system selling games has Nintendo confirmed to be coming in 2018?
We can speculate all we want, but the fact, is we don't really know what games are coming, to make a statement like you made.
What you have doing since our past conversations in assuming stuff - stuff that isn't confirmed.
I know that the chances of Nintendo not unifying their SW line, are small, but unifying their SW and HW departments was a measure to create a better relationship between between departments and become more productive (reusing assests and whatnot) and not to unify their SW lines.
If your read Iwata's comments on the matter you'll see that.
I'm not saying Switch won't have big hitters next year or 2019.
What i asked was how 2018 will compare to 2017 (fresh concept+amazing Zelda and Mario, Splatoon 2, MK8 (even if a port), etc.)? That's a very tough thing to beat.
2018 better have a lot of heavy hitters if Nintendo wants to continue Switch momentum.
Kirby, Yoshi and even FE, to some extant, are nowhere near the powerhouses (like Mario, Zelda, Splatoon and MK) that will do that.
These franchises (Kirby and Yoshi) will not sell the console. They will sell and please fans, but won't attract new consumers.
They are the type of franchises that Nintendo fans like, but that's it.
Wii had good support from EA, but you should look at what those FIFA, NFL, etc, turned out be in the end: family/casual oriented versions.
Wii didn't get less support because it was (clearly) less powerful than PS3/XB360. The problem was always the audience. Just look at sales of CoD games on Wii vs PS3 and Xb360 and you'll see that. If even CoD couldn't sell millions on Wii, what chance had other less popular IPs on Wii?
I have no doubts we will get more announcements due to Switch being successful.
My concern is: will it be a multiplat or a port? Is it a system selling franchise like Destiny/CoD/Battlefield or the likes of Doom and W2?
That makes all the difference.
Nintendo did hide a few surprises (Mario and Rabbids, the Pokemon port) but those surprises were still far away (when you take into consideration that the Switch line-up was revealed in January).
So, i'm trying to hard?
You say that announcements are bound to come because Switch is a success and 2018 will be the same.
I said that we don't know what's coming in 2018 besides 3 games (the only ones actually confirmed) and that future announcements (ports or multiplats) are dependent on how Fifa 18, Skyrim, Doom sell on Switch.
I don't see how i'm trying to hard, here.
