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Miyamotoo said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

 

1) No its not forced, and Switch is in incomparable better situation after 6 months than Wii U was after hole 1st year. Zelda BotW, MK8D and Splatoon 2 in 1st 6 months are making day and night difference compared to Wii Us hole 1st year. Those games are big system seller games, and games for which people are buying console. What you personally have or not is totally different thing. Fact is that multi platform games are not what is selling Nintendo hardware, great and strong Nintendo games are selling Nintendo games, not multiplatform games that you could play on PS3/Xbox360 that were actualy around $100 cheaper than Wii U. Yes, Wii U had stronger and more 3rd party multiplatform games on launch, but that relly doesnt matter if they didnt had big and strong Nintendo game that will move system, and thats most important. You also forgetting that just few months after launch, Wii U started to losing 3rd party support, and we had months without single new release, compared to that Switch actualy is gaining more and more 3rd support how times is passing and Switch continue to sell great.

2) Multi media options never were one of key reasons for success for Switch (Wii also didnt had them). People buying consoles to play console games on 1st place, not to watch YouTube or browsing, especially today when every person caries phone or tablet for things like that. So no, lack of strong 3rd party or multi media options never relly were key reason for succes of Switch (or last few Nintendo hardwares). There are three key reasons for succes of Switch (or even Wii):

-Great, strong and interesting concept.

-Great and strong launch games.

-Good and strong marketing thats on spot. (So marketing is just one reason, not single one, good marketing without apeling hardware and strong games don't mean nothing).

Wii had all those 3 points (Motion controls, Wii Sports and Zelda TP like launch titles, and great marketing), Switch have them also, Wii U didnt had not single one of them but did had strongest multiplatform games on launch and had strongest multi media on launch compared to Wii and Switch, but none of that were key points.

 

3) Lol, I not making up anything, I gave you clear facts, and you keep ignoring fact that Wii U didnt had one single system seller game in almost hole 1st year, while Switch has 3 of them in less than 6 months. Also you keep up bringing Wii U launch multiplatform games, but they don't change anything, nobody bought Wii U in order to play those games when could played them on much much less expensive PS3/Xbox360, and offcourse that one of main resons why people are now buying Switch are Zelda BotW, MK8D and Splatoon2, not some multiplatform games that Switch has.

1) Switch is in a better position but not games wise. The problem with your argument is that it is focused on three games... two of which are multiplat (on WIi U. One for years). And the problem is that while the games sell, there is no concrete proof that they sell systems as I already noted. Mario Kart 8 sold super well on Wii U despite the console itself being a failure. Saying that is a system seller is, by all accounts, a fucking lie. Wii U is proof of that lie in and of itself.

2) I do not know why you argued this point like I actually meant it. The point of that rhetorical point was that in hindsight, people will say stuff that stupid. And they will believe it in spite of the fact that it clearly is untrue. Like you with this fallacious argument right now.

3) You gave me your opinion. One that is not actually backed by factual evidence. While you can say Switch has a system selling game (or three even though two of them are on another platform and one of them is a sequel to a game on a platform that was a failure and the original did not exactly move the meter in terms of selling consoles either...). Meanwhile, my argument has been that OVERALL, Switch does not have as much quality as Wii U did. Wii U came out blazing with over thirty titles and just to list a few for you: ZombiU, Tekken Tag 2, NBA 2K13, Madden 13, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Darksiders II, Batman Arkham City, Fifa 13, Mass Effect 3, Ninja Gaiden 3, Lego City, Monster Hunter 3 and more. You are not going to sit here and tell me those games are somehow not good or do not count. There is no way I will buy that if you are selling it. Wii U had games, that is undeniable. And to close that point out, you said one of the main reasons people are buy Switch is Zelda, Mario Kart 8 AND NOT SOME MULTIPLATFORM GAMES but those two games right there ARE MULTIPLATFORM GAMES. And if you say people think of them as Switch games then you are basically admitting the marketing Nintendo has done is working.



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