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ssj12 said:
Shameless said:
In this thread: People confuse 'best' with 'most influential'.

typically a game that influenced an entire genre or enhanced a standard in a genre typically are the "best"


That's true, but if I had to choose which games I wanted to play today, I'd stick with CoD4. You can't underestimate how much an amazing single player experience adds to a game. IMO, FPS without single-player shouldn't even be considered for "best of" lists.

Because online FPS isn't all the same, but it certainly is a variation on a very familiar formula.

At the same time, I believe online modes shouldn't be required for best FPS. Especially if we're rating how good the game is, and not the engine.

 

Seperate lists could certainly be made for best online game or shooter. However, best "game" to me, means that is has a cohesive single player experience first and foremost. That's why games like Bioshock, System Shock, Deus Ex, CoD4, Halo, and Golden Eye deserve to be on that list, imho.

Not that what you say is wrong. I just feel that there are already 100 games with better online modes than the original UT. There are few or no games with better SP than those games I've mentioned. Goldeneye is a special case, as it basically introduced many gamers to Multiplayer FPS via splitscreen and even today few games match the feel of that game in split. However, I'm a bit biased, I admit, as I never played UT when it was first released, so I don't have those fond memories that you do.

 

So yeah, I think this list is less influential, and more "best."

 

Afterall, if you were making a "best games of all time" would you list Pong, Defender, or Donkey Kong?

 

On goldeneye remember the secret level with the metal jawed guy from Moonraker? You had to stop the rocket, and it was only for Very Hard mode or something? Man, that was an amazing game all around. Paintball guns ftw.



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