World gone mad: People angry about "innocent until proven gulty"

[Aeolus451]

palou said:

Aeolus451 said:

That's a possibility but I've seen alot of this variant of progressives saying the kind of stuff on social media and in articles. It's the main reason why I'm not a fan of progressives in general. I'm okay with the more chill ones but this kind of shit...  He could be emulating something he's seen or heard for I know. He also could just have a different opinion than others with a similar ideology. It gets convoluted when you ask a person what they think on a given case or situation and sometimes they disagree or agree in surprising ways. Take that "preemptive strike on NK" thread for an example where it doesn't fall neatly into party lines or ideology. It's the same thing on this topic but it's no where near as confusing as the NK topic. Some of the left agree with "innocent until proven guilty" while others of the left don't. 

And that's why I'll continue to advocate against the use of the terms conservative/progressive, right/left. These terms are more often than not used as accusations, blindly associating all the faults of a group on an individual, even if the faults are unrelated to the topic for which the association are made. People should be treated and judged by nothing else than their own, individual qualities and positions. No judgmetn should be made upon that that has yet to be stated.

I agree with you about judging someone on their individual qualities when you're talking about them on a individual level but on political views, I disagree because for one thing, it's alot easier and quicker to assess where someone stands by them just stating what groups/ideology they agree with. It's entirely to complex to go over every issue to find out where someone stands on a individual level in a pratical manner that's quick. It's why poeple say they agree with a certain group on most things but disagree with them on this other thing. For example, I'm a right leaning libertarian. It's the closest thing to what I agree with. I support gay marriage, trans rights to a reasonable point, gun rights, prolife, for death penality, religious rights should be protected as they push their beliefs on others through law and I like free markets.