DakonBlackblade said:
Prequels did not make a lot of money relativley to what Star Wars make, they damaged the franchise, so your point is moot. The production there was in fact mishandled since it resulted in a poor product. Can you read minds now also or is your proficient simply making points you can't back with facts ? If the Disney films had been bad on the BO, and had been bad received by critics and word of mouth then their production would have been mishandled, even if they had had 0 directorials change or reshoots. All the shit that goes on production only matters if the end product isn't good. Quick example: r If the movie sucks then we will discuss what might've gone wrong in production, its as simple as that. |
Your point is so bad I can't take you seriously. I've said before and I'll say again : This discussion is moot. You care more about money than how something goes behind the scenes. That's fine, but that's not really "looking at the facts!" as you put it. That's just talking reception and money grossed versus how something is treated during development. The irony is that your point about Prequels didn't change anything. It's not like I ever said the prequels were as successful as the original or new trilogy, I just said they were successful. And no matter how much you want to say "but but but compare it to the original star wars ..." it doesn't change that they were successful. Two can play at this game : You can say nothing ever in the universe ever is being mishandled if it makes money, and I can say that as long as something makes a lot of money it's a success. But that was such a small part of this entire discussion that it just seems like you're grasping at straws. I'm sorry my liege that my example wasn't using the most popular of popular Star Wars movies! Please forgive me!!!!
I mean just look at how narrow-minded your example is "Right now Justice Leagues production looks like a complete mess. If the movie comes out and its a smashing sucess, everyone likes the thing and it breaks BO records, well shit, guess having 2 directors with complete different views on the same movie and reshooting over 1 hour f your movie works great, kudos for DC."
Really? That makes no sense and just goes to show that your mindset is nothing is ever mistreated during development if it makes money. Your own example doesn't even make sense because it shows a movie being successful despite it's bad handling rather than because of it - and yet you come to the conclusion that the awkward creation of the film is what lead it to being profitable? That makes no sense. It could be marketing, brand recognition, or the fact that genuinely good movies have been made despite being handled terribly during production. But you automatically make the connection that shitty handling during production must have been what caused it's success in your example? Absolutely ridiculous.
And after I wrote an entire paragraph a few replies ago about how you care too much for wording - you then again go back to "handling". Again, remove the word and what can you say against the idea that the production of these films are at least very faulty? I mean jesus, why do you even care about dfending a companies management of a film franchise during production, in a thread about the production of a movie, if all you care about is the final product? That's not even what we're discussing! It's not like one or two missteps would trigger this response from me either. It seems like every Star Wars film Disney created has had similar issues, except maybe Force Awakens. Honestly at this point it's not worth discussing. I get that how a franchise is handled goes back to it's BO and critical performance, really I do. But i'm talking about how it's handled during production - and you're just not willing to talk on that level at all. It would be fine if one or two of your points used post-production elements, but it's your entire argument! If you don't like what someone said about the production during a film, don't argue about the production of a film versus it's post production!
