Colin Trevorrow Exits Star Wars Episode 9; Disney will announce new Director at a later date

[AngryLittleAlchemist]

DakonBlackblade said:

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

It's frustrating that pretty much every reply I've gotten is "if you don't like them" or "they're box office hits" , both of which I've addressed already. My comment about Disney mishandling the license actually has nothing to do with that, since I think it was pretty obvious I was talking about the production of films, and not the amount of revenue grossed or how critically acclaimed the films are. You know, because that's what this entire thread is about? It should be pretty obvious that Disney is mishandling the series during production given how well documented it is, but considering I've gotten the same reply from you and another user, i'm just going to assume nothing will change your thought process. Again, never talked about the quality of the films(aside from my OG comment which is just about "creative differences") or how much money they made. Those are not the only things to consider when talking about how a franchise is handled. Since you guys want to make a success story out of Star Wars movies doing well in theatres(shocker), I'll just say that 3 out of 4 of Disney's Star Wars movies that were or are in production have had serious issues during development. I don't even care that this specific director was fired, he is not that great in the first place. 

The irony is that I think you're only commenting like this because Star Wars is in a better place than it was during the Prequels. You like the movies more so you defend them. But i'm not talking quality or revenue. And guess what? The prequels were very successful! So i'm not talking all that, i'm talking how it's handled during production.

The production of the films is directly related to the box office and to the consensus (as in critical consensus) of the movies released so far. Even if Kathleen Kenedy were firing directors and having reshoots every 1 month and it was producing great BO and critical response it would be "handling the franchise well". Toy sales have also gone up and the brand is worth more now than before Ep VII and Rogue One. Under her management 2 movies were released, both were sucess, theres nothing else to discuss realy, what you think of the pratice moraly is besides the point, it yields results and makes the franchise grow. This is exactly what Kevin Feige has been doing to Marvel movies in the last 10 years (or however long ago was Iron Man I). If the next couple of movies come out and they are bad movies (critically) and don't generate much BO and cause the brand to loose value then we may ahve grounds for a debate, right now Kenedy's way of handling things has made the franchise grow and that is statisticaly documented. As much as you want to disasociate this discussion from BO and the quality of the movies there's no way to do so cause one thing goes hand in hand with the other.

I mean, not really. 

You know, you might not know this, but there's this thing. It's called "production". And often times, the way you can produce something can be mishandled, but the sales you'll get on it can still be good. You can still make a profit! Does that mean the series isn't being mishandled? Not necessarily. During the production and creation of these films, it's a disaster. And as much as you want to use BO or critical acclaim it is not the be all end all of how something is handled. The prequels were also very successful, and a lot of people didn't even hate them till years after their original screening. I wouldn't say though that the development process of those films was handled correctly.

Either way, you care more about a word I said than the point of what i'm saying. Let's say we take the word mishandled completely out of the dictionary. What does that change about how effectively Disney is making product? Yeah - it's making an insane amount of profit. As if a Star Wars movie published by one of the biggest corporations on earth wouldn't. But that still means that during the production of the film - it's being poorly treated. So what is changed when you look at the actual point and not just some word you don't want to associate with a company? Nothing.

At this point, you're obviously going to think no matter what the series is being handled greatly because of it's BO box and acclaim. But we're talking on different wavelengths. If you think that Disney is handling it well, nothing is going to stop you from believing that. *shrug* It's not like your mind or mine will change from this dialogue.