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Soundwave on 01 September 2017
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thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:

Probably easy to feel this way when you've never been put in a position where a routine situation could lead to you getting shot. 

That dude who was choked to death by several officers for selling CDs on a street corner or the kid that was shot to death for wearing a hoodie while walking home or that other dude who was shot to death like 8 times in front of his daughter while simply reaching for his papers ... yeah if that happened to people who speicifically looked exactly like you, I imagine you might have a different POV in that scenario. 

You act as if these situations impact you so much, yet you can't keep them straight?  Or was there another incident with someone selling CDs that Google doesn't know about? And telling only one side does absolutely nothing to help the situation.  But, I don't think you really want to help the situation.  Just keep the statis quo, most likely for political reasons.  Otherwise, you would point out the bad ones, while actually seeing the facts on the justifiable ones.  Not simplifying every single one of these to "cops always bad, blacks always the victim."

The man choked to death was selling cigarettes.  Sadly, something that happens when a state puts getting their vice taxes over actual human life.  The man with the CDs was shot because he looked like he was reaching for his gun, the gun that was the reason the cops were called there in the first place, not the CDs.  The kid with the hoodie, which I'm guessing you are refering to Trayvon Martin, wasn't even shot by an officer.  He was shot because he decided that instead of going home after Zimmerman lost him, he was going to confront him and beat the crap out of him.  And the man shot in front of his daughter was a police officer overreacting to a man having a firearm on him and thinking he was going for it.

The fact is that only 2 of those cases (the cigarettes and the traffic stop) were actually the case of a police officer overreacting, and not really caused by the victims own actions.  And while they are extremely sad, they, as well as the other cases, had nothing to do with race.  If the people were white/latino/asian, the officers (and one neighboorhood watchman) would have reacted exactly the same.  The only difference.  We most likely wouldn't have heard about them.

That's too many to begin with. US cops are trained like crap, too many of them don't know what the fuck they are doing. A dude selling cigarettes or video games or whatever the fuck should not end up dead 30 minutes later when he had no weapon. That is not a violent situation to even begin with. 

"He looked like he was reaching" is pretty much the go to excuse now to just slaughter a person in their vehicle. If I was black I'd be nervous as fuck to reach for anything in my car because how do you know the officer isn't going to suddenly think you're reaching for who knows what and make a "mistake". 

Those people paid with their lives for those "mistakes", meanwhile most of those cops go scott free, because they can just say "well I thought he/she was reaching for XYZ". 

I think it's fair that people say this isn't good enough. This isn't the level of policing people should expect. Things like routine traffic stops, a dude selling anything on a street corner unarmed shouldn't end up with someone going to a morgue.