New Xenoblade 2 gameplay

[Nautilus]

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Nautilus said:

I'm not mad and I never said I didn't care about what others think about my opinion? Why do you keep adding words to what  I say. Besides, what do you mean "oh for gods sake ... The opinion argument" ? You where the one who said I was stating XBX looked better than 2 as if it was fact. What was I supposed to respond with? "Yeah, I was stating it was a fact!?" I wasn't. I'm just clarifying that it's an opinion, since you seem to think anything that doesn't have "in my opinion" at the end is being stated as a fact. I'm literally not using an opinion to deflect every criticism, you're just predicting that and acting like it's the case.

Most of your posts have not been intelligent well thought out discussions about technical leaps like Nuvendil, it's been mostly "You can't be serious?" "You're in a minority! Not many people say that!" *2 posts later of people saying that* "You're in a minority! Most people don't say that!" 

Well now you're changing your stance from "People don't like this because it looks like anime" to "people don't like this because it looks like generic anime". If you're fine with that correction then i'd have to ask ... what's wrong with disliking something because it looks generic?

"And funny, you scream opinion at the begginning of your post, but at the end you said I didnt refute any of your points.Opinions cant be refuted because they are subjective.Do you mind deciding in which camp you lie?"

Wow...possibly one of the most asinine things I've ever read in my life. I don't think you understand how discussion or arguments work. Almost every argument regarding entertainment, since the beginning of time, has been subjective. That doesn't mean that those arguments where invalid, or that points weren't refuted. You can refute a point by addressing it with a well thought out, or measured response, it doesn't require objectivity at all. When I said you weren't refuting my points, it was because you didn't really address them - at least not what I was actually saying. You said "oh this is objectively better" when I never said it wasn't, you said I was speaking as if it was a fact when I was clearly talking my opinion, and then you went on to ignore my point about currently beloved anime art styles in games entirely.  You didn't refute anything. You can refute points without the refute being objectively right.

Also, stop acting like i'm defending the guy who said the game has worse designs than the old xeno games. I'm not even addressing that guy, i'm just saying you've argued this with 3 or 4 seperate users, which makes me believe you are obsessed with defending the game's graphical merits. Obviously, the fact that I have to write an essay to counter you makes me look obsessed to, but I'm not going on this forum and replying to 3 or 4 different users saying "YOU'RE WRONG THIS GAME LOOKS BAD!" 

And ... how does comparing me to previews make me a minority? You're comparing me to two different previews ... what kind of sense does that make? This is not a room with three seperate journalists, this is the internet - where anyone can speak their opinion on the game. You then go on to say "and lots of people like the look of  the game" - completely anecdotal. Okay, i'll respond to that with lots of people don't. There, now you're in the minority amirite. Why does it even matter if someone is in the minority or not. Most sequels don't have people saying "this looks worse than the last game!" - the fact that this is even a concern is a problem.

My god.I really cant believe it.Instead of having a really nice conversation about videogames, of having a civil discussion about the games merits and dismerits, this has now become how to best insult someone without outright infringing the rules.Being acussed of being overly protective of a game(and being sensitive to anything negative as a consequence), when all I wanted is to discuss about a game I am really looking foward to.Making yourself looking like a victim, when all I did was bring out other points to the discussion.Putting words in my mouth, and accusing me of saying them such as "YOU'RE WRONG THIS GAME LOOKS BAD! and said the same to four different users!" .Especially when I argued about the graphics with only two other users.Accusing me of moving goalpoats, when you move them around all the time, and I foolishsly try to make a conversation out of it(Our conversation started with you quoting me on the reply I gave to that user.Or arent you saying that you dont share the same vision as he is, outside of the whole models part?)

I will admit I may have a bit more rough when you started being..... unreasonable, for the lack of a better word, but this is too much nonsense for me.Ill leave this one sided yell contest here, and whoever else wants to have a discussion with me, Im more than happy to oblige, but Im done with you.