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Lauster on 25 August 2017
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Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

Background and history when we lack the future is the best way to form an opinion and post predictions.

So Sony saying PS4 wasn't their last gen (several times) preserve the idea of a new gen. And so far Sony have only launched new gens with a good upgrade of the HW and also that the previous HW wouldn't be able to play the same game (at least after the 1 or 2 years of transgen games).

So far Sony only once made a console launch for over 400 USD and saw that as a mistake.

Sony haven't yet even made a PSVR+PS4Pro official bundle, and never made any peripheric mandatory to play the core console. And have given lukewarm to decent support to Move and PSVR, so they aren't all in gimmicks. And also saw how much harm it done to X1 and WiiU.

All your opinion is based on multiple Sony fuck ups or doing things they never done before.

So what would be more expectable, to have Sony do every single mistake you think they will or that they won't make idiotic mistakes, worse yet repeated mistakes?

And still even if Sony made all those mistakes that would in no way shape or form make the message for X1X the same as PS4Pro.

Sony was clear PS4Pro better versions of PS4 games and better showing on PSVR.

MS also said X1X VR is exclusive to it and also that X1 will play the same games (but they won't mandate anyone to make the game run in both) and also that they are looking to end generations and to have play anywhere.

How is both messages the same?

There has only been 4 main iterations of the PS hardware, not enough evidence to suggest they have learned anything.

If I had a penny every time a company said one thing and changed their direction due to internal and external factors I would be a millionaire.  Nothing is written in stone just like Sony saying rumble not needed, will not charge for PSN and a host of other claims they have made where they have changed direction.  I also found something very interesting.  I tried to search on Sony statement that the PS4 is not their last generation and you know what, I found a lot of articles saying the opposite.  I even found a few with Sony President Yoshida being very vague if there will be a PS5 and these are recent articles.  There is an article where Yoshida says he doesn't even know if a PS5 is needed and it will be determined by developers if they require more power etc.  There is still a tossup as to what the PS5 may or may not be and there definitely isn't anything cut in stone on price, hardware or game support.  Some have predicted it to be 400 to 500 bones, just depends on how much of a curve Sony want over the PS4.

The message for the X1X and the PS4 Pro is that they are mid gen consoles with no exclusive, 4K gaming.  Do they each have features the other does not yes but where is the message really different.

 

As for VR, MS has made no statements that VR is exclusive to the X1X.  They only stated that the X1X was built for VR.  If you can find a statement where they make this claim I will concede this point but I could find none.

Search better

Shawn Layden confirmed there will be a ps5... 2 months ago.

https://dpadjoy.com/2017/06/23/there-will-be-a-ps5-smartphone-style-approach-will-not-takeover/