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Wyrdness said:
Miyamotoo said:

To be fair we still dont know true potential of Switch because it's still heavily supply constrained and continue to selling great despite that. I dont say it outsell PS4, it will be very hard because PS4 will be second best selling gaming hardware ever after PS2 and DS, but chance always exist. I dont think anybody would be surprised if Switch at end outsold PS3.

 

-Switch is currently selling better than 3DS in same time period despite fact that costs $300 and that games are $60.

-Switch in same time is aiming home console owners not just handheld owners like GB, DS and 3DS.

-Switch has Splatoon, new 3D Zelda and it will have other home console games, games that  GB, DS and 3DS didnt had, while in same time Switch will have handheld IPs (Pokemon, Animal Crossing...).

-Wii didn't had GTA, but it did had Fifa and CoD, Fifa is coming on Switch, and eventually CoD will also come same like some other 3rd party games buy time.

-Switch will have multiple revisions, buy time it will have much more affordable price point, especially when most likely Nintendo release Switch Mini/Pocket just for handheld play.

 

I dont say that Switch will outsell PS4 but with Switch people need to stay open mined, we still dont know true potential of Switch because it's still heavily supply constrained and continue to selling great despite that, so there is some chance that maybe could outsell even PS4 at end even that would be very hard beacuse PS4 is on path to be second 3. best selling gaming hardware ever after PS2 and DS.

The is also one factor you forgot to mention Switch has no direct competitor in the portable market which means the userbases of both 3DS and Vita have only one option to go for. Before we factor in overlap of users 3DS, Vita and Wii U combined is 94m units, when we factor in overlap it's potentially 85m+ from those 3 platform.

Catching the PS4 is difficult tbh although I can see the NS still easily making the top 10 platforms sold, I actually think it has a good chance of outselling PS3 given all the factors.

I can't remember the last time a Nintendo platform sold heavily at £300 mark my words when the likes of Pokemon and Animal Crossing are nearing completion the is going to be a strategic price cut.

 

Soundwave said:

I'd honestly rather have a Switch that sells 80 million units but has a wider variety of software sold more akin to the days of the SNES than 100 million but a very narrow type of software being the only sellers (mostly Nintendo mascot IPs + some third party crap like LEGO and Just Dance). 

To me that's the bigger challenge for Switch ... can it break out of the stigma of being just a "Nintendo system" and actually have a vibrant overall ecosystem of a wide variety of genres and game types that sell. Nintendo hasn't had that in a long time. 

Portables already have that vibrant ecosystem that's why they're so dominant.

I don't think the 3DS ecosystem is really that vibrant. You have Nintendo IP that sells well and a small handful of Japanese IP, and even with Japanese third parties, they kinda shunned the system after supporting it early on ... Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, Kingdom Hearts, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid were all IP on the 3DS early but I guess these games did not sell up to whatever internal expectations were on them because these IP never showed up on the 3DS again after that early period. 

Western support of the 3DS is virtually non-existant. I would hope Switch is better than that. 

NBA 2K is the one of the biggest Switch third party IPs by the way. 

Even for Nintendo games, I'd like a more diverse sales pallette where games other than just Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/DK/etc. sell. I miss the days where a game like F-Zero or Star Fox had a shot at decent sales.