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Machiavellian on 20 August 2017
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Tulipanzo said:
Machiavellian said:

MS isn't going to make a killing on the X1X because it's not priced to do so.  We can just throw that out the window.  Its not designed marketed or even implied that it will sell in that type of volumn.

As for what will sell and not sell as far as next gen, without knowning anything on games, hardware, features we can speculate all day long but if your prediction was true then the WiiU and PS3 would have been run away success if each company hand only to just make a console and people would buy it.

This is a discussion on what Microsoft can do to market the X now that CrackDown is a no show, and your solution is: nothing.
I think that's quite underwhelming, especially after tanking the S sales.
Your whole point seems to be making some pre-emptive damage control for low future sales.

It's interesting that you bring up the PS3 and WiiU, because those two consoles were also affected by a bungled value/price.
The PS3 price had to be lowered, but it ended up outselling the XBox 360. People wanted a new PlayStation, they just were willing to pay so much.
The WiiU never quite went down in price, but its release line-up remain sparce, something the Switch was eager to fix.

The X is launching with no game to call its own, at a higher price point than anyone else on the market, and with far less brand recognition than either Sony or Nintendo.
I can't see this ending up well.

I bring up the WiiU and PS3 because corporations no matter how long being in the market can make mistakes.  They can guess or decide what the market wants or what the market will bare and fail.  The X1 was MS chance to solidify themselves in the market and they made the same mistake.  Next gen will be a chance for everyone to do it all over again.

The X1X is not the console you want it to be.  It's just a hardware refresh not a new system to the market.  It will not or was it ever thought to be the console to change MS position in the market at this time.   You can make these predictions when MS bring in their next gen system to market along with Sony.  The reason you cannot see things ending up well is because your expectations is off.  For some reason you believe MS has to sell the X1X like its a mainstream console buts its not.  Its not priced as a mainstream console and it comes to late in this gen to make that kind of impact.  Take the console for what it is, a high price Premium system for people who have money, enjoy MS ecosystem and want the system that will play 3rd party and MS games at their best.  Thats pretty much it.  It will not bring over any Sony fans unless they were already MS fans and was looking for a system to spend their holiday money on.