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Turkish said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

I have to disagree. The main reason why original Xbox One failed at launch was that MS have done everything wrong with it in terms of hardware. PS4 had more power and it was easier to develop for. Just like 360 was in compraison to PS3. Sony did a good job and learned their lessons with PS3 so they made PS4 in the same way MS did 360. The other problem is that Microsoft alienated developers from Xbox One platform. 360 was great for indie developers because of XBLA program - MS closed it. You can add here stupid restrictions for disc-based games like no used discs, always online, etc. And betting a lot on Kinect wasn't a good idea either. But now, they've learned the lessons from Xbox One launch. And with Xbox One X they are doing everything right in terms of hardware and relationship with evelopers. The problem is that because it is mid-gen upgrade to already inferior system, it's not gonna change anything.

Actually Sony learned their lessons mid last gen, everything changed with the PS3 Slim launch: better marketing, new price, more games, especially more games. Sony 1st party went into overdrive. Microsoft hasn't learned any lesson, they think Sony beat them because of power and that's all they're focusing on, but where are the games? Their 1st party is on life support. They keep cancelling and delaying games, they just delayed Crackdown 3, a game announced in 2014! They literally skip on the most important part that makes consoles a success: games. PS4 didn't keep winning all these years because it was initially cheaper and more powerful, they kept working to keep their lead. It's like when u got a gym, u need to keep going to maintain fitness.

Yes, I agree that Sony learned their lessons mid gen and did the best they could to save the PS3. But I was literally talking about the approach to hardware engineering. They couldn't change PS3's problematic architecture mid gen so 360 had the advantage in terms of hardware by the end of the gen. They've really done a great job at gaining hardware advantage this gen with PS4. By doing this they've managed to appeal to a large piece of 360 userbase who wasn't looking at PS3 last gen even after all the improvements Sony did mid gen. 

Considering Xbox One and One X it is obvious that MS did a great job hardware wise but as I've said it isn't gonna matter much because of One X being just another addition to the inferior family of consoles with bad first-party support. But I really think that MS could've gotten a good chance to succeed if it was really 9 gen when everything resets again. With the help of proper first party output of course. And MS is known to have fine first party and third party support at launch. I can't really say that Xbox One in its first years had some problems in terms of software iutput. It was on par with PS4. It wasn't up until last year when everything went bad for them.