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Turkish on 17 August 2017
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derpysquirtle64 said:
Turkish said:

MS has learned the wrong lessons from the failure of the og Xbone. They think PS4 won because "moar powar", so they figure they can get the mainstream back by making the "most powaful console ever made", but powa wasn't the only reason they lost.

The problem I fear at MS is that higher ups don't care about traditional console gaming anymore, they just want Windows entertainment systems in the living room with GAAS games running on the platform.

I have to disagree. The main reason why original Xbox One failed at launch was that MS have done everything wrong with it in terms of hardware. PS4 had more power and it was easier to develop for. Just like 360 was in compraison to PS3. Sony did a good job and learned their lessons with PS3 so they made PS4 in the same way MS did 360. The other problem is that Microsoft alienated developers from Xbox One platform. 360 was great for indie developers because of XBLA program - MS closed it. You can add here stupid restrictions for disc-based games like no used discs, always online, etc. And betting a lot on Kinect wasn't a good idea either. But now, they've learned the lessons from Xbox One launch. And with Xbox One X they are doing everything right in terms of hardware and relationship with evelopers. The problem is that because it is mid-gen upgrade to already inferior system, it's not gonna change anything.

Actually Sony learned their lessons mid last gen, everything changed with the PS3 Slim launch: better marketing, new price, more games, especially more games. Sony 1st party went into overdrive. Microsoft hasn't learned any lesson, they think Sony beat them because of power and that's all they're focusing on, but where are the games? Their 1st party is on life support. They keep cancelling and delaying games, they just delayed Crackdown 3, a game announced in 2014! They literally skip on the most important part that makes consoles a success: games. PS4 didn't keep winning all these years because it was initially cheaper and more powerful, they kept working to keep their lead. It's like when u got a gym, u need to keep going to maintain fitness.