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Machiavellian on 08 August 2017
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Ka-pi96 said:
Machiavellian said:

At that precise moment he was hesitant to kill himself, she made a choice. She could have did nothing, talked him out of it or chose to goad him into ending his life.  At that moment her choice and her action using her influence and her status pushed the situation to death.  It really does not matter if you think someone can or cannot choose to end their life, but in the majority of states it’s still a crime and even in the ones that allow it there are procedures a person has to go through in order to commit the act or it’s a crime.  Just like any crime you can be a assessor to that crime. 

 So if we think of this like any other crime, if this guy was a bank robber, and he needed intel of on the bank to make his heist.  The person giving that info for the heist knowing the end result and outcome would be sentenced and prosecuted as an assessor to the act.  Just because you are ignorant that something is a crime does not mean you are absolved.

The only reason she did not get voluntary Manslaughter is just her fortune of not being their to assist or give him the instrument to kill himself.

You keep talking about crimes but I think it`s absolutely laughable that anyone would even think of making suicide illegal in the first place. Also, in case it isn`t obvious I 100% think assisted suicide should be completely legal as well.

So what is your experience with someone who wants to commit suicide.  Since you are 100% for it, have you had anyone close to you commit suicide.  How do you determine if the reason someone wants to die is because there is a good reason or it’s because of drugs they are taking that can give them those thoughts.  There are a lot of drugs that can cause depression or cause a person to have suicidal thoughts.

So is it in your mind that anyone who wants to die need no help and should be encouraged.  Do you have any conditions where you would believe assisting a person want to die is not the right course of action or do you believe everyone who wants to kill themselves is of mental health can make the right choice.

I do not know about you but I have had 2 people very close to me who wanted to die.  One is dead and the other one is alive.  The one who is dead, did not have anyone come to the rescue and well the end result is death.  The other one did have someone come to rescue when told someone  they were thinking about killing themselves and she is alive.  From my experience when someone tells another person they are looking to kill themselves they are reaching out for someone to give them a reason to live.   If you really want to die, you usually do not tell anyone and just do the act.  Definitely if you were unsure about doing the act you probably not expecting the person you confide in goading you to follow through.

As I mentioned she made a choice, she could have end the conversation if she did not want to be a party to the act and she would be good to go but she without ever thinking of the consequences of her action decided to be an active partisapant and thus is lucky she is not getting a full sentence.