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Aeolus451 on 04 August 2017
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Cloudman said:
twintail said:

And im not seeing it. This issue was raised bac at E3 and died very quickly, and the conversation has only been restarted again now. Even with the ppl against the idea the issue hasnt really been that important. Maybe when the cross platform play for the other devices has actually been implemented it will be, but for now its just a vocal minority. And nohting proves otherwise.

I think its pretty unfair to just dismiss their previous efforts like that as if they somehow dont count.

Actualy I would say you are straight up wrong on that assumption. Everyone is looking at this as only MC and RL and not looking at the bigger picture. They say yes to this, they have no reason to say no to anyone else. 3rd party multiplatform games are big sellers,, especially MP ones.

CoD, Destiny, Battlefront, Far Cry ,GTA, RDR, FIFA.

These games not only represent huge MP gaemplay, these games also happen to have marketting deals with Sony. Not MS. That doesnt help MS at all. By pushing cross play MS is attempting to negate the fact that the PS4 is being increasingly seen as the de facto console to go for MP gaming. And part of what sustains that now is that ppl are already into the PS ecosystem and so consistently new players are joining their friends into that ecosystem.

With cross plaform play, that entire need to get a PS4 goes away. Just because PS4 has many exclusives etc doesnt mean that many ppl buy them. A large portio of ppl buy only like a couple games a year. There are ppl who buy only FIFA and CoD and nothing else each year. They are a big market too. To ppl like that, whats important is who they can play with.

The reality of this entire situation is that all 3 companies are making business decisions that only help themelves.

For MS it means you dont need to buy a PS4 to play with a large demographic and your friends for MP games.

For Sony its about the opposite and ensuring that all their hardwork and the marketting deals they have pay off in continuing their hardware dominance.

For Nintendo its about ensuring that 3rd party MP games can thrive on Swtch even if the Switch userbase is incredibly small for the game. Is a pretty important business move because they need to ensure asap that 3rd parties can thrive on the Switch in the MP realm, something their devices are not known for, and also becasue they need as many reasons as possible to make the move to a paid online system look viable.

Every decision being made here is a business decisions that aims to help each companies respective hardware first. The consumer benefits, or lack thereof, is secondary to this.

You are right on that Sony should support it. But you are very wrong if you think MS sees no benefit, and Sony no detriment, from this. Because that is exactly what is governing the decisions for and against supporting this cross platform play.

I figure the reason the issue went quiet after E3 was because... there really isn't much else to say about it. It mostly looks like a weird decision from the gaming audience, with some being negative reactions, although it won't really do any harm in the long run, but more as a missed opportunity. And I didn't disregard Sony allowing cross-play with PC, but it does look like their decision is more business based, rather than a more positive impacting one.

I still don't think in the grand scheme of things this would be that impactful. The console with more value and merit will be the higher selling console, and Sony seems to be doing alright in that regard. It seems more like Sony being paranoid if that is their reason for staying out of cross-play.

I think it fizzled out because it's not true that sony is against CPP. Sony allows CPP on alot of games with pc and some games like FF XIV with other consoles so the complaints didn't much have of any merit. Sony is only blocking CPP with certain popular MP games because it's a business move that forces people who want to play these certain games with their friends, they'll have to buy a PS4. 

MMOs is the only genre of games where I think the only real shot of CPP happening between the 4 platforms exists because I'm sure the devs can can stipulate that they have to allow CPP for them to get a port and each console should be interested in allowing their players to play with a large pc population.