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Aeolus451 on 03 August 2017
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JWeinCom said:
SuperNova said:

Reading that...makes me sick. What gets me are the casual endearments thrown in, like she's doing him a favor. They talk about his suicide like it's his collage application or a job opportunity, not the end of his existence. That...normalization is sick.

 

And the worst thing is, I can see how it happened. I have people really close to me that fit this sick mold of a relationship and it gives me anxiety. Yeah, she deserved every single minute of that sentence and still got off lightly.

She also dealt with depression and anxiety.  And one of those things that can come along with depression is thinking that suicide is a good idea.  Obviously, the girl's fucked in the head.  I'm not sure exactly how prison is going to help with that.  

Aeolus451 said:

Any recording of them actually talking about this or records of them communicating before all that? The reason why I'm asking if just about anything is damning on text because emotions can't be conveyed through it easily or you can't read facial reactions/body language or the tone of their voice. 

I still think she shouldn't go to jail over it. There are couples out there pushing for legal suicide for one of them while the other is supporting their choice. 

There is no reasonable interpretation aside from her telling him to kill himself.  Especially considering that he killed himself in the manner they discussed.  She But yes, she was on the phone with him as he was doing it.  He left the car, and she told him to get back in.

I haven't heard of anyone arguing for legal suicide, except in the case of of those with terminal illnesses.  Even if they did, I don't see how that is at all relevant.  People arguing for something has nothing to do with whether or not it should be legal.  See: NAMBLA.

It's relevant to this because the person's spouse in these cases are often encouraging or supporting their spouse to commit suicide in a roundabout way. It's not a whole lot different than what she did. Some of these people have mental issues that just don't want to deal with anymore and this is an avenue that can choose.

The regular blue states is where assisted suicide is legal. The baby blue state is where it reguires a court ruling to do it, The red states is where it's illegal. The yellow states is where there's legislation is being considered or a court case is ongoing about it to decide precedent. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States

http://www.patientsrightscouncil.org/site/assisted-suicide-state-laws/

I'm not saying that girl is innocent or a nice person. i'm just trying to be objective about it outside of knee-jerk reactions to it. 

 

NAMBLA is nothing like this and it's not gonna happen anytime soon. If anything needs to be shut down or a situation where free speech shouldn't be allowed is with that stuff. I've come across some of these kind of people on youtube with vids on it. ugh..