AngryLittleAlchemist said:
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"Oh boy. You're going to use another argument based on wording and not sales. Ok, look. It's easy to make anything sound confusing when you make 10 replies in a row about one word someone used, and then just take all those replies and add them together. If this is for comedic humor , it's not funny , and if it's a point then it's embarrassing. I'll just put it this way, for an exclusive it' not that impressive, for the series it's somewhat impressive but not that surprising. There, those that make sense?"
Lol i was just pointing out that that statement didnt make much sense but you just clarified it so thats good. I'll leave it at this. I think its impressive for the series and for an exclusive dead rising game.
"Yes...which is what I was literally telling you not to do? This entire discussion has been about how Xbox games either flop, or sell mediocrely. I don't care why they don't sell well, we're not discussing that. .. you seem to think that Gears will hit 6 mil so tell me why, instead of why it's selling meh as of now. Also I was pretty skeptical about Gears 4 because of 343, I don't trust Microsoft's studios and to be honest I think Gears 4 advertising was terrible, so much of their campaign footage was uninspired enemies and scripted events."
Well your other post you posted "Personally, I think it's mostly because Judgement and the mishandling of Halo. " . I was just addressing that statement with my personal opinion. And 343 doesnt have anything to do with Gears 4 so i dont understand why thats relevant.
"Jesus christ, really? I literally said in my last response my main point had nothing to do with whether the people go past the main menu. It was just some food for thought that, you can literally start Halo 5 and be a Monthly Active User."
Okay and i was just responding saying that when you start a game youre probably going to play the game. You brought it up as one of your arguements so i wasnt going to ignore.
"And now you're going to respond to that every reply just like the mediocre thing right?
You kept up bringing up the mediocre thing so i responded to it.
"And it is incredibly misleading - you are not an "ACTIVE USER" if you play one or two days in a 30-31 day period. That's why Monthly Active User is such a stupid measurement - it tells us nothing about engagement statistics."
If you're playing every month for a few days its an important statistc because it shows that the player is still interested in playing the game even thought its for small periods at a time its a good way to know how many overall users are using the game on a monthly basis.
"I can't believe you are literally pretending like it's not misleading, when 343 pulled a PR stunt, got called out for it, admitted the stats weren't comparable after community backlash, and then failed to mention Reach to try to make 5 seem impressive. Like, what? The company practically admitted it was misleading after being called out for it and you're saying it isn't? It doesn't even matter if you think it's personally misleading, because the point is Halo's popularity which is still on the decline. It is doing better than 4, but as someone who played 4 for about two years after it came out ... that's really not saying a lot."
Its not misleading because the original statement said "Halo 5 has had the highest monthly active players for a Halo title since Halo 3." . l Its not misleading because its true. And Reach is included in this i looked back at the post and theres nothing saying that theres less MAU on Halo 5 than Halo reach except from speculation from that forum users.
""I went with the 5 million in a year because to be honest i dont see splatoon selling more than that during its first year. Splatoon on a 13.9 million install base only managed to sell 4.8million."
"Splatoon on a 13.9 million install base only managed to sell 4.8million"
"Splatoon on a 13.9 million install base only managed to sell 4.8million"
"Splatoon on a 13.9 million install base only managed to sell 4.8million"
Halo 5 = 6 million / 30 million = 20%
Halo 5 = 7 million / 30 million = 23.3333%
Halo 5 = 8 million / 30 million = 26.66666666666666666666666666666666666666667%
Splatoon = 4.8 - 5 - 5.5 million / 13.9 = 34% or 35% or 39%
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from re-al-ity!!!"
Ok Splatoon has a higher attach rate. That still isnt relevant to the discussion because you said something about splatoon matching or passing Halo 5s sales which hasnt happened.
"So you moved your goal post from fifa has sold better on Xbox One compared to 360 to this title and this title sold better compared to the old versions on the 360? Uh .... ok?"
Its was comparing them to the older versions because the install base was around the same size. It wouldn't be fair to compare FIFA 17 to FIFA 13 because FIFA 13 had a way large install base.
"I'm still confused why you included Madden and Fifa, two games that reallly have very little place in this discussion, but that is a nice catch and actually is a good point. "
You compared Halos sales to Battleground and Splatoon 2 to show that Has as a series is in decline because it's getting outsold by these new IPS so i brought up other IPS that battlegrounds is outselling and the IPS like FIFA and Madden are IPS that are still selling good.
"No you weren't. I was comparing PS4 Battlefield to Halo. Not the Xbox One titles. Maybe I should have clarified better, but it shouldn't have been hard to figure out considering I was comparing 360 BF numbers to modern Halo."
Okay so were having a conversation of games selling on xbox and you bring up battlefield and expect me to know that you're talking about the PS battlefield games and not the xbox version? Some clarification would have been nice lol. Also if youre talking about how popular a series is it doesnt make sense comparing older battlefield games to modern Halo games because thats a bit misleading 
. its like me comparing 360 Halo games to modern BF and saying halo is way bigger.
"And Master Chief collection was mass bundled for about two years in a 400 bundle to 300 bundle? I don't really see your point about the "bigger install base". It doesn't matter, because so many Halo bundles were sold to make that install base in the first place. But install base is just an overall bad argument anyways, which is why i'm trying to be fair with Splatoon 2, cause we really dont' know how that will transpire."
Yeah but MCC bundle came out 4 months later than its Nov 2014 release when the BF came out when Battlefield 1 launch and it was one of the main bundles for the holiday. But still The Halo games on xbox one has outsold the Battlefield games on xbox one.
