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Aeolus451 on 31 July 2017
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mizzou_guy said:
Aeolus451 said:

That's just the dysphoria. It matters because of the way that alot of people are starting to use "there was trans in the military for years, there's no problem with them". If they served in the military as their biological sex and lived as a biological guy then later transistioned after they we're out of the military, they were just still technically guys then. It doesn't work retroactively.

To further show my point, Caitlyn Jenner won the 1976 Olympics decathlon event at the Montreal Olympic Games as a man and not as a trans woman regardless if she is today a trans woman.  This is not same as a gay person winning a golf championship 50 years ago and not being out in the open about his sexuality then later coming out about it. A gay person still won that golf championship 50 years ago. The reason why there's a difference between trans and gay is because one is entirely about identity and the other is about sexual orientation. 

You seem to have already forgotten the video I posted earlier that interviewed two Transgender military people.  They were both transgender while they were still server, but had to hide it at work.  That doesn't fall into your example of serving and then later in life (years later) becoming trans.  These people literally went home at night and became their real selves, the side they had to hide while at work.

The woman transitioned while on active duty and deployed. The guy didn't physically transition (his reasons, to stay in military/keep benefits) but socially transitioned outside of work, wearing guy clothes, acting like a guy and using a guy's name in public. His co-workers/bosses likely knew he was trans because of that but left it alone. I don't really call any of that hiding. You were wrong about your examples especially with the woman. *shrugs. 

While I do agree that there's plenty who wanted to transition but hide it completely til they were out, there's likely plenty who later figured out they wanted to transition after they were out of the military. My point still stands.