AngryLittleAlchemist said:
But that's exactly why it should have sold better. it IS a launch game. You seem to think that simply mentioning it's a launch game entails an argument for why it only did 2.3 million, but in my mind well reviewed launch games that are interesting and unique and come off a popular series should probably sell way better than Dead Rising 3 did. it's not like it was just left in the 10$ gaming bin at Walmart, for like 3years it was on Xbox One shelves. Launch games are a case by case thing, sometimes being a launch game causes death to games, sometimes it makes them blossom. Everything was in Dead rising 3's corner, which is why I'm suprised it didn't sell better. Again, I'm not taking anything away from it - it sold really well. I don't know why you're trying to push so much for it to be considered impressive, you aren't an executive of Xbox dude. This isn't how legs work. I feel like you just read my comment talking about "good legs" and then just tried to reverse it into an argument about Gears of War 4. Gears of War 1 was unproven, so when positive reviews came out and it became one of t he most popular multiplayer games of all time, people jumped in! With Gears of War 2 and 3, a lot of the sales came from the first few months because the fanbase was already established. Because of this, their legs were technically "worse". Like looking at Gears of War 2, it had 500k less sales it's second year than Gears of War 1, and 400k less on it's 3rd year. This was even more true for Gears 3, although it launched like 2 months before those games(just like Gears 4 which launched a month before 1 and couldn't match it's first year sales physically). Gears of War 4 already has an established fanbase, it should have sold massively it's first few months. It didn't. It's not going to magically get the best legs in Gears of War history simply because "Gears of War has good legs". Yeah, they do, but moree people should have bought it in it's first year. Because of this , even accounting for digital, there's allmost no way Gears of War 4 can get to 6 million. It's not going to have the legs of Gears of War 1, and considering it's install base was so small initially, it's not going to match 2 or 3 in sales. It has an established franchise, it's on a console that has a bigger install base than the Xbox 360 in the same time frame, and even with much bigger digital sales, it can't account for it's bad initial launch. "The sales are lower but Halo isnt as big as it used to be " ...yes...this is ... literally what I'm saying? I don't know how you clarifying that helps your point. It's not exaggerating. Look man, I'm trying to be reasonable here but I've clarified this twice and I'm going to clarify it one last time. I know you like Xbox but like damn. 5 million sales in 3 months is great for a triple A game, it's great for almost any game, but it's not great for certain franchises, and it's certainly not great for Halo. Halo 3 sold 8.1 million units in 3 months on a smaller install base(from what I understand it's not significantly smaller, but still). Halo Reach and Halo 4 sold 5 million in a month. You resorted to using an overpriced side game that was lambasted by users and online reviewers when it originally came out to show Halo 5 "performing strong". You can call a donkey a turtle but it's still an ass. Halo 5's sales are better than a lot of games out there, but in an era where Splatoon 2 and Playerunknown's Battlegrounds are matching it or even outperforming, I'm not going to jump for joy at 5 million in 3 months. It's mediocre. Maybe "extremely mediocre" is an overstatement for other franchises, but for Halo? No. It was Microsoft's 3D Mario. And I know I already brought this up, but if a 3D Mario, or you know ... if an Uncharted game sold 2 million in 3 months would people be jumping for joy? No. It's mediocre for the series. " Rare replay includes a bunch of xbox 360 games that Rare made for xbox" It was a joke, dear. "The game sales wise is lower than past Halos but it could end up beating Halo 1 and ODSt which is decent." Decent is somethig I'd use for mediocre sales figures "so i dont know how that doesnt speak "xbox brand" Well because I was talking about what Microsoft was releasing as "heavy hitters" or "big games" on the Xbox One, and to try and diminish my argument you guys brought up an indie and compilation disk. Like it's totally fine if they sell well, but they're not exactly the core of Xbox. Ori is getting there though. Like I have no problem if you say "Hey, these xbox games sold well!" but those weren't the kind of games I was addressing. "Ori is on steam too so its not really just an xbox thing." ...and you continue to make my argument for me : P I think you might be getting a bit confused no offense |
Its a launch games it has a limited audience to sell to. at the end of 2013 around 26% of XBO owners owned a physical copy of Dead Rising 3. Considering that dead rising games arent thaty big and that for most casual gamers that picked up an XBO in 2013 they are most likely to go with bigger IPs like COD,BF, Madden,FIFA and Forza than to buy Dead Rising. Hell RYSE was probably an even better option for some people because it was a better game to showcase the power of the XBO than dead rising. And the game had had pretty good legs afterward. Physical wise it has sold more copies from 2014-and beyond than it did in its holiday launch. For a smaller series it did really well.
Gears 3 legs werent as great as the other Gears game but i think its because a lot of sales came earler because it launched before the holiday 2011. Gears 4 also did launch a few weeks before the holidays but if MS can continue the support for the game, and give it pricecuts i think it will eventually get to 6 million. Also the game looks to take advantage of the Xbox One X so it could be a popular benchmark game. Theres a chance that it might not reach that 6 million but i doubt it will be a huge drop for the series,
Halo 5 selling 5 million in 3 months is lower than other Halo games dont get me wrong. But if it hasnt by now it could outsell Halo ODST and Halo 1 which imo doesnt seem "extremely mediocre" for the series. Also not to mention that its one of the most active Halos and had made lots of money for MS and 343 so ira definitly a financial success. Splatoon 2 outsold Halo 5 in japan 
but i doubt it will outperform it. Battlegrounds is a new hit game. Its already outsold the XB1 version of CO IW, and AW, and BF1. Also FIFA, madden etc.
Oh by your first post you didnt specify that you meant heavy hitters or big games so i just mentioned games that were xbox eclusive.
I wasnt trying to argue your statement that "Im probably forgetting some but I feel thats fairly accurate. I just think Ori and Rare dont reflect Xbox at all". I just never heard that said before lol so i wanted more of an explanation.
