Pemalite said:
Aeolus451 said:
1. I've talked to alot of the gay community, read things by gay/trans, watch vids youtubes from some of them on some of this. The family and friends of a gay/trans not accepting and supporting is devasting to that person and it's more damaging than what some people on the net say to that person.
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Considering Youtube is a place where people find fabricated evidence that the world is "flat". - Need I say more?
Talking, reading is one thing. Living it is an entirely different kettle of fish.
It's a shame you cannot be placed within the shoes of someone in the LGBTQI community, your eyes might be opened.
Aeolus451 said:
4. This what I was referring to in 2. i don't have need a vagina to understand women's issues. You're dismissing others' opinion because they are in the same club.
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So you have an understanding of the stigma LGBTQI suffer on a daily basis?
You understand the fear that LGBTQI go through when they travel overseas and their life could potentially be put at risk for how they were born?
You understand the pain women go through during child birth or when they are having their period?
To think you understand any of these issues on a personal level is... Hilarious to say the least.
Aeolus451 said:
5. I turned your arguement around so you can see the stupidity and hypocrisy of it. You're very much saying that I can't have an opinion or a say. You did it with 4. Again, using an example to show my point is not a strawman.
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This pretty much sums up the entire conversation, the twisting of statesments/intention. - You took my argument out of context and THEN turned it around, not the same thing.
I explicitely stated you are entitled to have an opinion. Do I really need to quote myself?
I think I will end the conversation here, clearly your view is very anti-LGBTQI and thus goes against everything I stand for. I'm sorry I am not willing to treat others differently because of false preconceptions or some kind of desire to dictate what someone can or can't do due to the various reproductive organs that they may/may not posses. Hopefully that changes for you some day.
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Agree to disagree. We're just going in circles. You're contradicting yourself. For the record, I'm not anti-gay/trans and pro any of that. It's more of an issue by issue basis for me on this kind of stuff, some of what I believe falls onto the left side and some of it on the right. I think you're being extremely close minded about outsiders to your little club, though.
