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160rmf said:
Ganoncrotch said:

If you think your average gamer on the street gives a rats ass about how many Gflops the machine has you are in the same boat as the people who thought a E3 conference for the XBX would be best started off by talking about Memory bandwidth...

The average gamer who goes to game stop and hands over their cash doesn't know what a GFlop is, they just know what games are and what they hear about on youtube etc. even going back 2 generations, the Wii was a Gamecube 1.5 in terms of specs, still outsold the still impressively powerful PS3 by a clean 20million consoles, Power isn't what gamers go for... enthusiasts on the internet do enjoy their power and list wars... but Enthusiasts are not the people who fund the gaming industry... not even a little bit.

Yeah, people on forums tend to think that their beliefs is shared by the entire gaming community.

Zkuq said:

High price, not very powerful, somewhat disappointing exclusives in the opinions of some, potentially difficult target audience, and being a bit gimmicky which is always somewhat risky.

These look like very good reasons.

Now they dont, in most cases they are not true at all, It's not really high price for hybrid, you cant rely have high power with hybrid, Switch exclusives are killing it, just Zelda BotW is one strongest ever game like launch game for any system, target audience was obvious from start, home console and handheld lowers in same time, concept of Switch is very strong and its system seller alone.

 

 

Zkuq said:
Miyamotoo said:

It's not really high price for hybrid, you cant rely have hi power with hybrid, exclusives are killing it, just Zelda BotW is one strongest ever game like launch game for any system, target audience was obvious from start, home console and handheld lowers in same time.

Like I wrote, Switch has great concept that aims handheld and home console market in same time, and had huge system seller game like Zelda BotW followed by MK8D, it was quite obvious that want be fail. But some people passed that and still were negative about Switch, but that mostly comes from Wii U faile.

If people feel it's a high price, then it is a high price. Turns out the price is not too high, but there was a lot of criticism about the price before the launch. Switch is weak, no matter how you spin it, and it's a negative thing. It might be acceptable, but it's still a negative thing. One exclusive isn't enough in the long run. Luckily BotW doesn't seem to be the only strong exclusive, but I wouldn't exactly say criticising Switch's exclusives was invalid criticism either. The target audience was tough because it's both core gamers and more casual gamers. Generally it seems like the more casual audience is more interested in smartphone gaming these days, so getting their interest seemed difficult. On the other hand, Switch's weak power is more problematic for a lot of core gamers. I don't think being worried about the target audience was an invalid reason to be skeptical either.

There were (and are) a lot of things that supported Switch's success even before its launch, but there were also a lot of reasons why people might not be so confident in it. It requires a lot of insight to be able to properly assess all the things properly in an unbiased manner, and I don't think I've seen a single person on this site show such insight. It's possible there are some cases with proper insight in them, but most cases where people have been predicting anything about Switch's fate have been cases where people have made very shallow 'analyses'.

But people don't think price is high, and that's why sales are so good and Nintendo can't keep with demand,most of people who thought like that didn't realise that Switch is real handheld and real home console in same time, and that offers two controllers out of box for multiplayer. Depends how you look at it, if you look like handheld its incredible strong (in handheld mode its stronger than Wii U/PS3/Xbox 360), if you look it like home console it weak but again its around 3x stronger than Wii U/PS3/Xbox 360, so at end, Switch is strong enuf for what it is. Zelda BotW wasnt only exclusive, and we talking about one of strong launch game ever. Targeting home console market and handheld market in same time was very smart and very logical, from start was obvious that will be one strongest Switch selling point.

Switch from start had 3 things that are among most crucial for success of Nintendo hardware, great concept, great system seller game like launch title, and great branding and marketing, and later great schedule of games where we have one bigger or stronger Nintendo game on around every month. That alone tells us that Switch will do much better than Wii U in any case, in comparison Wii U failed with all those things, but some people failed to see that and predict that Switch will faile.