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sc94597 said:
vivster said:

Of course it's not going to happen. The US is a very hostile climate for taxes and regulation thanks to decades of propaganda from businesses and the politicians they paid.

Satisfaction rates are a joke. They should be at 98% and higher. It's called universal healthcare, so if a whooping 25% are not satisfied with healthcare or simply can not afford it, it's a failed system. Democracy is nice and all but a country should strive to satisfy 100% of its citizens and not just a simple majority.

The country is still running and will continue to run just fine thanks to its economic position in the world but as far as social care and regulations to protect people are concerned it's a failed state and a justified laughing stock of the rest of 1st world countries.

It's sad to see and at the same time infuriating when the same country is constantly claiming superiority over everyone else while it can't even properly provide for all its citzens.

Except payroll taxes aren't only taken from the rich. They are taken from everyone. It makes perfect sense why somebody would oppose a loss of what could amount to almost 20% of their income, especially if they are poor and healthy, or especially if they already have health-insurance through medicaid, medicare, or their employer (which constitutes the bulk of Americans.) 

The point of bringing up satisfaction rates is to illustrate that most Americans don't see it as a problem. Most would say, "sure we pay more for healthcare, but people in other countries pay more for housing, food, gas, and electricity. It evens out. As long as I am covered, why should I care if an illegal immigrant is not?" I can assure you that many countries with universal coverage don't have 98% satisifcation rates. 

Why should Americans care if its a "laughing stock of the rest of 1st world countries." Americans really don't care about that, and never did. The mindset is "you worry about your own country, please. We'll do our own things, thank you very much."  The country for most of its history has been considered the "laughingstock" by Europeans, it is nothing new. 

As for the country "claiming superiority over everyone else", like I said most Americans don't care about other countries. They are indifferent. Why does it matter if they claim "superiority" if it is all words? 

Maybe that's only me. I hate idiocy and I hate lying. And I hate even more the people who support those things. I shouldn't care that the US elected a moron and that a good portion of Republicans are actively trying to cripple the country out of malice or ignorance. But it really hurts my soul that those things are allowed to happen. It lowers the standard of what's acceptable world wide and not only in the US. It's still a world wide community and what the US does, has effects around the globe. So the excuse of "It's our own country , we can do with it whatever we like" doesn't fly.

It's this attitude of parading every success you have around and then trying to hide or talk down every negative thing that is happening as if nobody should care. So we should care when the US is awesome but we shouldn't care if it's not? That's just an asshole thing to do and being an asshole isn't nice.

Currently the US is a highly nationalist country. Not caring what other countries think about you is not going to solve it, it's going to make it worse.



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