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Aeolus451 on 13 July 2017
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Machiavellian said:
Aeolus451 said:

Innocent until proven guilty. That's how I treat things like this. Unless he actually did something criminal and they have proof of it then I don't really care especially since I know cnn and msnbc are gonna run this for at least a month with no updates other than just recycling the same stuff.

Do you guys realize what info the lawyer supposedly had? It was info/evidence that Hillary Clinton had dealings with Russia that were criminal or politically damaging. So if they gave jr that info which the meeting was for, don't you suppose he would of used it to bring down Hillary during the election? Don't you think the trumps would have used the info some bombastic way to hurt hillary? That's what convinced me that no info was exchanged. If it was exchanged, it would have been used then depending on the info itself, it would have likely overshadowed how jr got the info. They would most likely treat him as a source or leaker depending on how the info was released to the public. 

You continue to assume that he did not use it.  You continue to assume that they had to just come out themselves with the information.  Depending on the nature of the info and how they obtained it, do you think it would be best for them to actually come out directly with that info.  If Trump and his administration did directly come out with that info, then they would be in a world of trouble.  Also there is an investigation with a Marketing research firm that Krusher funded that actually did throw out some dirt on Clinton behind the scenes.  

On another topic it does appear that Trump Jr and even Krusher could be procecuted for breaking the Finance laws governing contribution of foreign nationals.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

So basically it matters not if Trump actually did receive any information but the fact he went to the meeting to receive it could be enough.  Here is the passage that I am sure he and his lawyers will be making a defense and presecutors will be looking to make a case against.

(4)Knowingly means that a person must:

(i) Have actual knowledge that the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national;

(ii) Be aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to conclude that there is a substantial probability that the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national; or

(iii) Be aware of facts that would lead a reasonable person to inquire whether the source of the funds solicited, accepted or received is a foreign national, but the person failed to conduct a reasonable inquiry.

He didn't use the info. Just use your noggin'.  DId Hillary lose the election because of her own ties to russia? No. The info they went to that meeting for wasn't exchanged because it wasn't used when it was the most useful to the trump's side. You're the ones assuming things and being illogical about this.