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Ljink96 on 07 July 2017
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JRPGfan said:
Ljink96 said:

Well, if certain developers don't want to put in the effort, they shouldn't support the system. I mean, why whine about the situation when you could just not support it and stay on PS4/Xbox/PC? Switch is going to favor those who understand the intention of the Switch and are willing to develop software that is specifically designed for Switch. And of course, he didn't know how successful the Switch would continue to be back in April so I'd guess he's eating those words now...

With Wii U, Nintendo's job was to promote their software and software that was prone to improving Wii U sales. As, Wii U was in a terrible position at the time. Why would they try to promote a game like Oddworld over Mutant Mudds or even Mario Tennis Ultra Smash? It just doesn't make sense. I'd understand if there was a deal that outlined and set in stone the idea that Nintendo would promote their game but there wasn't and he should have been prepared for that. 

It's not Nintendo's job to help developers sell software on their system...that's the developer's job. lol That's where marketing comes in. If it doesn't sell even with marketing your game just isn't what the audience wants, he's been in the business for a while he should know that. It's not like Oddworld was some huge franchise to begin with, XD

Why not both?

See that is the issue right there. That mentality.

Remember "riseing sea raises all boats" ?

Not with nintendo.

He basically said even during the Wii level of success, only ones really makeing good money off that system was Nitnendo themselves.

Sony see themselves as a platform for gameing, when they do well, so do 3rd party.

Its what brings 3rd party games.

 

Also "Well, if certain developers don't want to put in the effort, they shouldn't support the system."

They do, but they cant do day-2-date for most of it, because the nintendo system is much harder to get games running on (portable/home console modes, weaker hardware, workarounds needed to be found ect).

So basically Nintendo punish 3rd party, because their system is harder to develope for, by then not showing any support to the developers that do put in effort to port games. By not bothering to promote their games (even during software droughts), because their mentality is "we f*** you over if you dont day to date". Its a unfair system.

Because there's limited space to promote. You can't just expect to be promoted. I personally don't think it's really unfair. Nintendo did put up a trailer and an interview on their Youtube channel which is most likely free promotion and I'm sure that Nintendo at least had a new releases page beneath the main content on the eshop.

I'm the kind of person who has no sympathy for developers who don't know the audience they're trying to cater to. I wouldn't come back from the brink, with a game that really wasn't all that popular to begin with, started on Playstation, and expect the mainly hardcore Nintendo audience that was on the Wii U to catch on to it. That makes, absolutely no sense. Nintendo is at the end of the day a company that highly values its software. They're prone to promote software that they know, based off of market research will sell well on their platforms.

And again, if it's so bad for developers like him, vote with your ability to develop software for other platforms, don't be petty and attack Nintendo because your game didn't sell itself. Just don't support Nintendo again, if they feel this way. If Nintendo put money into development of other 3rd party software then yeah they'd probably advertise it, like Bayonetta. But if Nintendo is asking you to bring software over, it's your choice to do so and your obligation to do your own research and see if the install base is receptive of your style of game.