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Teeqoz on 01 July 2017
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fatslob-:O said:
Teeqoz said:

You can argue idealism all you want (in which case there are many idealistic arguments against your viewpoints as well), but if you look at it with a pragmatic point of view, your current immigration policies don't stop people from coming. They just ensure that people immigrate illegally, which lowers potential tax revenue, increases crime, pushes down wages because those workers have no rights to speak of (and even if they did, they couldn't use them cause they'd be thrown out), and is overall detrimental to society. Your policies act as a gateway into more crime because you already make people into criminals, which lowers the bar for participating in other legal activites, both voluntarily and being forced to do so.

Are you suggesting we keep unlawful residence of aliens instead ? 

If we looked at it from a pragmatic point of view then illegal immigrants should be straight up deported from america since they are not net contributors in terms tax revenue and instead add to the deficit by taking in more benefits than what they pay according to a study from the CBO ... 

I'd be okay with not being able to be a net contributor since most american tax payers get more benefits than what they pay in too but if you're going to try and benefit from another foreign nation, the least you could do is try and respect it's customs and the other things that come with it otherwise you shouldn't expect them to show you any mercy that goes especially where death penalty exists ... 

Our policies do not exist to create more crime, it exists to create order and precedent but if unauthorized aliens don't want anything to do with that then they don't have a place in the greatest nation on earth ... 

No, I'm proposing that you make immigrating legally easier, and possible for more people.

Regardless of what the purpose of the policies is, that is one of its effects.

I also don't think even insinuating that the death penalty is acceptable punishment for immigrating illegally has any place in a proper discussion.