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fatslob-:O said:
Teeqoz said:
I am all for people immigrating legally, however part of the US's problem is that the amont of people they let in legally is much too low to meet demand.

We should only demand the best in America ... 

Only the most educated or biggest contributors (potential tax revenue) should be allowed to take part in the greatest nation in the world ... 

Those who try to enter in order to raise their oversized families should be dead last for consideration ... 

America's purpose doesn't exist to raise a foreign nation's new generation, it exists to nurture our own new generation so we'll demand as much or little as we want ...

You can argue idealism all you want (in which case there are many idealistic arguments against your viewpoints as well), but if you look at it with a pragmatic point of view, your current immigration policies don't stop people from coming. They just ensure that people immigrate illegally, which lowers potential tax revenue, increases crime, pushes down wages because those workers have no rights to speak of (and even if they did, they couldn't use them cause they'd be thrown out), and is overall detrimental to society. Your policies act as a gateway into more crime because you already make people into criminals, which lowers the bar for participating in other legal activites, both voluntarily and being forced to do so.