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couchmonkey said:

Mario Odyssey - I am worried about this one.  Nintendo really should be going 2D with Mario, the proof is in the sales figures.  I was giving Odyssey the benefit of the doubt because Nintendo made great strides in open world with Zelda, but I think the game might have serious issues with the cornball theme song and strange mix reality and fantasy.  Nintendo needs Mario to perform, they have no other guaranteed hits until Pokemon.

couchmonkey said:

Overall, I'm not worried about the Switch line up, I'm frustrated because Breath of the Wild gave us a glimpse of the same "Winner Nintendo" I saw on Wii and DS.  I like Winner Nintendo.  Super Mario Odyssey, Yoshi, Xenoblade these are Loser Nintendo products.  They're fun in their own right, and I don't want to see them go away, but the only way I'm going to see, say, a proper Final Fantasy sequel (or even reamake) on Switch is if Winner Nintendo gets out there and sells 80 million+ Switches.

Of all the games we know about, are you really saying that Super Mario Odyssey is a "Loser Nintendo product"? Are you actually serious?

It was the best game at E3 2017, has the most views of any game on Nintendo's YouTube Channel, looks to be the most ambitious and creative Mario game ever, and has gotten an incredibly positive reception from the press and gaming public. Based on the Mario team's track record, it has a good chance of being the Game of the Year.

Was Super Mario 64 a "Loser Nintendo product"? Metroid Prime? Super Mario Galaxy? I can't even imagine the amount of ignorance it takes to look at one of Nintendo's masterpieces and say that it's something that losers make.

Even according to your own ridiculous standard of "winners only make games that sell really well," Super Mario Odyssey is more of a "Winner Nintendo product" than Breath of the Wild is.