| thismeintiel said: Your whole point is refuted by pointing out that most of those prices were AUD, something you chose to not to point out. Hmm, wonder why. |
Every single link was provided, every single AU price listed was taken directly from the page linked, and every single page linked states it's australian, I even go as far as stating the AU to US exchange rate for the time frame involved so you could go in to the reviews and do the math yourself, is expecting you to actually click the links now some sort of deception?
Are you genuinely arguing that expecting any level of effort on your part is deceptive? oh man.
| thismeintiel said: And as the $749 price of the launch PS2 in AUS proves, you CAN'T just do a straight conversion of AUD to USD to win your argument. You have to do apples to apples, you know. |
Yes this was already addressed since I figured you would pull this bullshit argument too.
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NATO said: 1) Australian market is a captive one so products without immediate nationally available competition, end up subject to large markups, consoles have historically had a large markup in Australia on account of there never really being more than three manufacturers at any given time, where as the DVD market at the time was awash with players from a wide range of brands each with a wide range of models, and price reductions were rife to compete on the market, thus doesnt happen with consoles in Australia and never has, which is why Australian gamers specifically, get shafted. 2) Even if you factor in the above and apply it specifically to DVD players as if they suffered the same sort of markups, the USD, US launch price of PS2 was $299, the USD, AU launch price of PS2 was $456, a markup of $157 or roughly 32%, even if you take that metric and remove the markup from the player prices listed in USD converted, the result is still the same, none of the players would be under $200. |
As stated, even if DVD players were held to the same markups as games consoles (They are not, dvd player market had significantly greater competition thus marking up player prices would not work anywhere near as effectively as it did for consoles), they would still end up in the same ballpark as the PS2.
And then we have the EU/UK pricing and availability, which puts the PS2 firmly in the crosshairs of being in the same pricerange as low end dvd players in those regions, at launch.
As for all the other points brought up that you skipped, to coin your style of posting, "Hmm, wonder why. ".
