May 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 #1

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TheBlackNaruto said:

VideoGameAccountant said:

Replying to an older comment, but the actual increase in revenue was $9 million and the analyst said the increase in hardware sales was due to the Switch.

9 million divided by 300 is only 30,000 units. Japan sells ~24,000 a week. The US is a bigger market than Japan, so the numbers are much higher. With this in mind, PS4 likely saw a decline year-over-year. I point this out as everyone is cheering "YEAH PS4" but in reality, sales are likely down. Basically, it's the kind of a sand castle.

EDIT: Also software is down 20 percent. This is mostly due to Overwatch I'm sure, but it coincides with the decline in PS4 hardware.

But the PS4 was up YoY I thought? OR was that just WW? Because it is clearly ahead of last year given the sales numers that we have.

XBox+PS4 is up vs XBox360+PS3 in US. That may be what you're thinking. Keep in mind the time period you'd be comparing would be 2008 or 2009 in the height of the Great Recession

 

JRPGfan said:

VideoGameAccountant said:

Replying to an older comment, but the actual increase in revenue was $9 million and the analyst said the increase in hardware sales was due to the Switch.

9 million divided by 300 is only 30,000 units. Japan sells ~24,000 a week. The US is a bigger market than Japan, so the numbers are much higher. With this in mind, PS4 likely saw a decline year-over-year. I point this out as everyone is cheering "YEAH PS4" but in reality, sales are likely down. Basically, it's the kind of a sand castle.

EDIT: Also software is down 20 percent. This is mostly due to Overwatch I'm sure, but it coincides with the decline in PS4 hardware.

Sales are not down YOY for it, they just told us it was up, and that its the fastest jan-may sales the PS4 has ever seen.

It sold 7m+ units in the first 5months (of 2017).

Maybe thats only world wide, and things are bad in the US? but I doubt it. I think your just wrong.

 

"basically its kinda of a sand castle"

Someone expecting sales to collasp soon huh? Guess we ll see in 2018.

I dont see why though, what causes its sales to drop like a rock in your opinion?

The comparison would only be between May of 2016 and May of 2017. If you adjust the Switch out, you would seen total hardware spending decline. This is based on A)NPD Analyst stating the cause for the increase is Nintendo Switch and B)The growth in spending was only 7% (or 9 million). If the sales trend is the same as in Japan, you could see monthly sales for Switch about 140-160K (of course, this is just a guess on my part). The reason I'm saying it would be effecting the PS4 is because outside of the 3DS, it's the only 8th Gen system that is selling well. Nintendo is projecting it to sell about the same as last year which, globally, was only a few million. It's an estimate on my part. Nevertheless, if hardware sales were down, I'd expect the PS4 to be down as well.

The sand castle comment was a typo. I meant to say "King of a Sand Castle." Basically, PS4 is top selling, but its a false victory as its sales are likely down. I don't know about Year over Year to be honest. I don't think they mentioned that in the NPD analysis (though they did say its, plus XBox One, up over 360+PS3

I do think Sony is going to see a decline this year. The company is projecting fewer shipments, but I think it will be a bit worse than they think. The PS4 success is really XBox One and Wii U's lose. Both Microsoft and Nintendo made major missteps which Sony was able to capitalize (or at least not repeat themselves). I think it will be harder with another strong selling system on the market as an alternative. Gen 8 is odd because you see lower hardware and software sales but Big Budget game sales are up. Gen 8 is the generation of consolidation. Overall, everything is down but a few key players are doing well. I think competition changes the current norm up a bit.