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Turkish on 25 June 2017
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VideoGameAccountant said:
Turkish said:

PS4 was the number 1 selling console in America in May, what are you talking about?

And PS4 is not down, it's UP!

Lmao at the yuuge wall of number crunching and "anyway you slice it", you were so sure man!

Also LOL at the lie of Switch doubling PS4 sales in Japan every week, that hasn't been the case last week and the weeks before it http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1391465

and it isn't even the case this week with Arms. Japan is an insignificant market anyway for Sony. You need to travel more, the world is bigger than America, Yurop and Japan. Sony is dominating in the entire globe, on top of dominating America and Yurop. Japan is insignificant for them.

Why are you claiming things that are not true?

And what does PS4 development moving to Switch even mean, Western 3rd parties have already abandoned the system and things aren't much better in Japan. No DBZ Fighterz, no Ace Combat 7, no Ninokuni 2, no MH World. What the Switch is gonna get are lower budget games which aren't graphically demanding, like the Vita ones, and they will all come to PS4 unless Nintendo pays for it. Like I said, Switch will be the PS4's second Vita.

I don't think you read anything I said

  • I didn't say PS4 didn't win May, what I said was that it was down from May 2016. The increase in hardware is due to the Nintendo Switch (NPD Analyst specifically said that) and it was an increase of only $9 million(and I doubt Switch only sold 30,000 units for the whole month). Simple math tells you that if you exclude the Switch, hardware sales are down. Since every system is selling poorly except the 3DS and the PS4, and the 3DS will likely sell about the same as the prior year given Nintendo's projections, then PS4 is down. Its simple math.
  • You'll have to give me a link to that chart because all I've seen NPD release about PS4 from May was that PS4+XBox One is up vs PS3+XBox 360 (which, BTW, was during the Great Recession)
  • Here is the link to Media Create sales: http://gematsu.com/tag/media-create-sales. If you look, Switch doubles PS4 sales, so I'm not sure what you're going on about. It varies between week because Switch sales are dependent on the supply of units where PS4 always sells 12-14K with little variation. If you actually look at it, Switch double PS4 every week in May. Also, I think you should check again because Switch doubled PS4 the week of the 12th (http://gematsu.com/2017/06/media-create-sales-61217-61817) EDIT: Missed Pro sales. They are pretty minute (only 4-5K), but technically, it would be less than doubling. So let's say 1.5 times and split the difference.
I find it funny you said "Why are you claiming things that aren't true," when you actually said things that aren't true ("and it isn't even the case this week with Arms", Switch sold 37K vs 18K which is doubling)
But again, you can't look at the future. You say "It doesn't have these games," but you forget the system has been out for 4 months and games take 2-3 years to makes. The reason I say Japanese developers will move to the Switch because its selling out worldwide. Before, developers didn't see a reason to port over software or didn't see much in the system. Now it sells out every week in Japan and the US. Stores can't keep any inventory. Why do you think Monster Hunter XX was ported to Switch in Japan? Capcom had to rush something out since its doing so well. Where do you think the next Monster Hunter will be? On Switch. As these projects finish, you will see developers move to the Switch.
Gematsu reports that Arms has sold 100,652 units in its first week and seems to have had a knock-on-effect on Switch sales, which rose from 27,291 to 37,709 in the same week.

The game’s impressive sales dwarfs Tekken 7’s debut week numbers of 58,736, and it’s already beaten the fighter’s lifetime sales figure of 76,603. Arms also sold double the units that Street Fighter 5 managed in it’s first week – 46,836 – making it one of the biggest fighting games in years.

What do you think Capcom and Namco think when they see these figures? Companies are going to be looking at the Switch more seriously for their games and will be reluctant to sign exclusivity deals for PS4 exclusives. PS4's life is coming to an end. It's going to have to start thinking about making a new system, especially as the market is moving away from it in the US and Japan. Despite what a lot of fans think, the PS4 was not as successful at launch as the Switch is now.  So what does Sony do? Do they try and get something out there so they can snag development for their system, or do they sit back and hope that their consumers don't get absorbed by the growing PC market. This is why I said at the outset that Sony releasing a new system is going to be influenced by the Switch. If it wasn't a roaring success, Sony could have ignored it. Now, it will be hard to as Nintendo begins to absorb the downmarket and PC absorbs the upmarket. 

You said that "PS4 outselling the Switch in America" is a misunderstanding (which it isn't) and you spend an entire paragraph hilariously trying to prove how Switch actually won, which was pointless as we already know who won. It's a fact that PS4 outsold the Switch in May. PS4 was the number 1 console, it outsold the 3DS last year and this year. All other consoles and handhelds may be down, but not the PS4. Simple math.


37k is not double 24k, do you know how math works? And you said it doubles PS4 sales every week, looking at sales of past weeks quickly disproves your claim, you really shouldn't be lying and be disingenuous about something that can be checked so easily. Lol at excluding PS4 Pro sales to fit your agenda. Anyway like I said, Japan is an insignificant market for Sony, Playstation is a global brand, it doesn't depend on 2-3 markets like MS and Nintendo do.

"Companies are going to be looking at the Switch more seriously "

 By not making games for it? Like I said, Switch will pick up all the budget tier developers of the Vita and also release their game on PS4. Big games like MH World are just not possible on the system. Devs are very happy on PS4 and especially with Japanese sales overseas this gen, they're not gonna abandon it for an unproven platform with inferior hardware.

"PS4's life is coming to an end"

PS4 hasn't even peaked yet son it's just hitting its stride. PS4 is Zeus mode now, how u expect these mortals to challenge it.

You really seem to wish so hard that Switch will be replacement of the PS4, that it's gonna be abandoned soon, why cant you just be happy about the Switch without wishing ill upon the industry leader?