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VideoGameAccountant said:
Turkish said:

You talk about Nintendo taking this and that, but so far it's PS4 taking things away from Nintendo. A new Monster Hunter which is essentially MH5, and then of course DQ11 which is developed first on PS4. Sony got the 2 biggest brands away from them.

The Switch's 3rd party support will mostly only consist of Japanese games and these will also come to PS4. The Switch will be what Vita was to PS4, PS4 will always get the ports.

PS4 is already outselling the Switch in America and in Europe Sonyland things wouldn't be different. The Switch isn't eating into PS4s sales, it's more like the successor to the 3DS, Nintendo has their own market, both can sell well.

The bold is a misunderstanding of the NPD data. If you look at May NPD numbers, hardware sales increased by 9 million (7 percent) from $138M to $147M and the NPD analyst said that was due to the Switch. If you take 9 million and divide it by the Switch's $300 price tag, the extra 9 million would only be 30,000 Switch units. The systems sell ~22K-24K a week in Japan. Japan made up about 20 percent of Switch sales as of March 31, 2017. The US was about 48 percent (but we'll say 40 for the sake of argument). If we assume 22K a week for 4 weeks that's 88K. Divide 88K by 20% gets you 440K. Times this by 40% gets you 176K. Times $300 that's $52.8 million. Subtract this from the $147 million and we get $94.2 million for the month of May without Switch sales. This would represent a 30 percent decline in 2017. Now, Wii U sales will be down in 2017 but they weren't stellar in 2016, and the 3DS should sell about the same based on Nintendo's projections. Nevertheless, If you take this into consideration, this means sales of PS4 and XBox One are down significantly from 2016. In other words, PS4 didn't beat Switch because it sold so much. It won because Switch was supply constrained. This is also consistent with the 20 percent decline in software sales for the month. Any way you slice it, PS4 is on the way down in the US. 

In Japan, the Switch doubles PS4 sales every week. Europe is really the only bastion of the system as others in this thread have pointed out. And Switch is doing well there too. In April, VGChartz had the Switch winning each week towards the end of the month. 

And this goes with what you said above. The difference is you are talking about the presence. I'm talking about the future. Could Nintendo take these series back? Probably. DQ is coming to the Switch. MH was ported to the Switch and the next one will be on Switch as the system is selling a ton in Japan. Japan has been handheld focused since Generation 7. With the Switch being a hybrid, its not unreasonable to think it could get both console and handheld development. You aren't going to see it right now because the Switch isn't even a year old and development takes a few years. But again, I'm talking about the future. My point was Sony may respond if development for PS4 moves to Nintendo Switch. They don't seem to be doing anything different in 2017 based on their E3 presentation. We are in Year 4 of the PS4. Systems generally last 5-6 years. Sony could move to make a new system very soon.

PS4 was the number 1 selling console in America in May, what are you talking about?

And PS4 is not down, it's UP!

Lmao at the yuuge wall of number crunching and "anyway you slice it", you were so sure man!

Also LOL at the lie of Switch doubling PS4 sales in Japan every week, that hasn't been the case last week and the weeks before it http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1391465

and it isn't even the case this week with Arms. Japan is an insignificant market anyway for Sony. You need to travel more, the world is bigger than America, Yurop and Japan. Sony is dominating in the entire globe, on top of dominating America and Yurop. Japan is insignificant for them.

Why are you claiming things that are not true?

And what does PS4 development moving to Switch even mean, Western 3rd parties have already abandoned the system and things aren't much better in Japan. No DBZ Fighterz, no Ace Combat 7, no Ninokuni 2, no MH World. What the Switch is gonna get are lower budget games which aren't graphically demanding, like the Vita ones, and they will all come to PS4 unless Nintendo pays for it. Like I said, Switch will be the PS4's second Vita.