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Aeolus451 on 21 June 2017
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pokoko said:
Aeolus451 said:

That's false. If that was case then they would be making even more money since the keep charging more for the same services. Costs keep rising due to a multitude of things like unions, employee benefits, prices of materials, new taxes/fees, inflation,  etc. It's a fact.  For example, those $15/hr minium wage knuckleheads don't realize they'll lose a lot of jobs if that's implemented because it would increase the cost for businesses by a considerable amount. Mcdonalds would just become automated and everyone would suffer in some sense because of that. I can't imagine what their sandwhiches would taste like if that happened. haha. People need to learn how to be more pragmatic. 

Competition between countries for business. That's never gonna stop and it's a good thing in general. 

I already gave a solution. Just reduce costs for businesses to operate and have employees. It will solve itself. 

Sure it will.  We just have to degenerate our standard of living to match the lowest in the world.  That will certainly solve things.  Of course, that will result in other countries lowering their standards in order to attract businesses, too, so we'd have to downgrade again.  Maybe end up in situations where we are not only getting rid of corporate taxes but are actually paying corporations to stay.

Yeah, in the real world, that's not really an option.  Trump is well aware that doing so isn't nearly enough which is why he has talked about tariffs so often.

It's a capitalist market.  That means countries should leverage their buying power and operate just like multi-national corporations, not just sit and beg for jobs or wait to get used and thrown away.  If a shopping mall can charge companies for doing business in their market-place then a country can do the same.  

You incentivise staying but you also decentivise moving.  That's the only thing that's going to actually work.

To the bolded part. No, it wouldn't. We would just have to roll back some the more extreme crap that unions had implemented to reduce costs low enough for it to benefit companies well enough. Maybe reduce some benefits or fees that companies pay. You're exaggerating a good deal on the consequences. Unions dramatically increase the costs. They're nice in that they help out workers when they're hurt or getting screwed over but they've gotten way overboard in asking for too much pay, making it difficult to fire bad employees, tying it up with red tape.  

I agree that it would take a mixture of positive and negative incentives for companies to bring alot of jobs to the states.