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Ruler said:
Azzanation said:

The problem with Pro is its lack of identity. What it is? A 4k console? A VR PS4 console? Its confusing to the mass market because it doesnt render true 4k most times and well VR hasnt exactly lifted off the ground to boost Pros stance on the market.
X1X is simplier. Its marketed as a true 4k machine with 4k features. Nothing about the X isnt 4k related even the Blu-Ray drive is 4k (and aside from 3rd party devs not using the full protential) X1X identity is very clear and is an attractive buy even for none gamers who want an all in one 4k system for there premium theatre rooms etc.

Like myself, its going to go well plugged into my 4k/HDR TV next to my $2k PC. Premium products are for premium buyers. I want to buy a Pro but it cant sell itself. Seems more like a X1S upgrade only more dramatic.

The XBox One X neither can do native 4K in all games, it uses checkerboard rendering in Assassins Creed or Anthem. Whats the point really if it cant do native 4K in AAA games? The PS4 Pro is the best PlayStation thats the identiy, along being earlier and 100€ cheaper.

And i cant understand how you refuse to buy a PS4 as a PC gamer, a console that has actual real exclusive which you cant play on your PC, instead shelling out 500€ for a system that is playing all the same games. Do you gonna rebuy all the games on XBox One too by the way?

I seriously dont understand your logic here, and also  the boasting about your expensive stuff.

X1X is marketed as a 4k machine out the gate. It can play 4k Blu-Rays, has 4k Apps and is the most powerful console in the world. Thats how its advertised. The market knows what it is. I dont know what the PS4 Pro is. Its a more powerful PS4 thats it. 4k TV owners want a 4k console yet Pro doesnt offer a 4k player or true 4k on abunch of games without using checkerboarding. Go watch the Forza 7 trailer again. A 1st party game rendering true 4k with added PC features.

Let me educate you on my set-up. I have two 4k TVs in my house. My PC is in my room where i game 90% of the time. My XB1S is in my living room where i play my Xbox games and 4k movies. I dont have to rebuy the Xbox games, Have you heard of Cross Platform and Play Anywhere? thats your anwser. If i want to play my Xbox with my friends i go in the Living room to play Console Exclusives i give a damn about. If i want to continue playing 3rd party games and Blizzard games i head into my room and game there because my PC tower can only be in 1 room at a time. If i want to put on a 4k Blu Ray movie or play Xbox Live with my mates than guess where ill be going..

How do i watch my 4k movie disks in my living room? Your logic is get a Pro? haha yeah unfortunately my 4k Disks dont work in a PS4 Pro. Sadly. 

X1X plays 4k movies and games and i can couch multiplayer and game with my fellow Xbox Live friends. Logic seems to point at the X1X. 

If i want to play PS4 games so badly ill wait for PSNow on PC when they start implementing games across to it. As for a 4k machine its obvious the X1X is the better machine all round.