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Actually he is probably correct as far as how MS view the Pro. If MS felt the X1X was competing with the Pro, they would have taken a price cut and sold it either 399 or 449. Since MS decided to sell it at 499, they are positioning the device as a clear premium console above what they believe the pro is. Do not get me wrong this how MS decided to view and market the device, it does not reflect how the market will accept that view. Also MS I am sure does not believe it will sell better than the Pro and thats the real statement Phil is making. When you read the whole interview you get the feeling that Phil considers the Pro as a more mass market console with price and features compared to the more premium X1X which will sell as a more upscale niche device.