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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Machiavellian said:
See no reason for another platform. If you believe MS does not challenge Sony you did not attend the PS3 years to reap the benefits of the PS4. Sony is leading because they made the right course change while Ms lost focus. MS fired the person who lost focus and now have a new direction. I like the direction MS has made, if you think turning a big ship on the dime is feasible then you have no clue how the industry works. Just like Nintendo with the Wii and now Sony with the PS4, smart market decisions led to huge marketshare and profit. Just like the PS3 , the WiiU and the X1, bad marketing decision could see your installbase get Nerf. When all is said and done, each OEM has made good choices and bad and suffered for those gens. When the next gen starts, it will be interesting to see if MS can change their course.

If Sony would've launched the ps3 at a proper price, people would've chosen the ps3 by default over the Xbox 360. If you witnessed the Rrod issue, that was the fallout of Microsoft rushing their consoles development because they were afraid to take on Sony head to head. They believed they needed a years head start and the only way to combat Sony is to take away third party exclusivity from them. Microsoft pushed Sony to make their first party second to none that generation by making it evident that they were the me too console with PC games and Sony would have to reinvest in more first pArty to differentiate themselves from what everyone called the "hd twin". Sony could've launched at a good price but decided to risk it all to save their investment in blu ray as a format. 

tell me this.... if Microsoft was true competition for Sony cover an eight million console deficit for years until they caught up to them. No other brand has the brand power to do that. If Sony hits the ground running its over for their competition because they cover all the needed bases to win a generation by a landslide.

 

with the groundwork Microsoft has covered they need to be more consumer friendly from the beginning and for he love of God invest in strong first party instead of being dependent on third party they cannot trust. This is why Sony and nintnedo are at least known for brand identity in their games and quality. They have products made by them that have that Sony or Nintendo touch. Microsoft has yet to achieve the feat of leaving their mark of quality on games 

There is no way Sony could have sold the PS3 at the time with a proper price.  The console was 800 or so bones to make and they were already eating a lot on cost.  Actually its the over engineering of the PS3 that produced the PS4 where Sony made sure to not over engineer, eat cost and keep a reasonable price.  This is what I mean by a mistake.  It took years for Sony to break even on the PS3.  Even then they nerfed all of the profits from the PS2 years of happiness.

You seem to only look at marketshare while I look at the decisions Sony has made.  You think about how Sony changed their arrogance stance towards their customers because of the 360.  You look how they changed their design of their console, how they decided to not push for that niche developed system but something easy and simple for Developers to program for.  You look at Sony online service and tell me MS did not have a big influence.  You look at how Sony has embraced the indie developers and Tell me that was not influenced by MS.  You tell me the PS4 is not a direct influence on how MS does hardware compared to how Sony use to do their hardware.

Yes, Sony has better exclusives but then again they have been in the business a lot longer and purchase some of the best developers during the PS and PS2 hayday.  As with a lot of studio closing from both camps even Sony is not only keep the good ones and letting the so so ones go.  Each gen gives each company a chance to change the narrative and it could be that Sony go back to their early preception that they are the king of Consoles and let their rivals show them that console gamers are not that loyal.