Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:
Look at the Scorpio as a mid range PC. 12gigs of Ram is way above the standard GPUs for the PC world. On average PC gamers use 2 to 4gigs of video memory. i5 are also the standard CPU you will find in majority on PCs. (Those standards will slightly raise in the next couple years)
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Not apples to apples I am afraid.
Scorpio has 12GB of Ram. That's it. That's for everything.
That's for the OS, that's for apps, that's for voice chat, that's for OS services, that's for audio. That's for everything. After all is said and done you have only 9GB of memory for the game itself and it's graphics.
PC has a dedicated memory pool for graphics, often included with the GPU.
And then the PC also has another memory pool for everything else not related to graphics, called system memory.
If you look at the Steam statistics, over 22% of PC's have 12GB of system memory or more. That's a larger userbase than the Xbox One in total. And that doesn't include the gigabytes of GDDR5 included with discreet GPU's.
Qwark said:
Than it isn't significantly more powerful than the one in the PS4 pro. It's a CPU boost comparable between the original PS4 and the PRO. So around 30% more powerful than the pro. Since its still a jaguar CPU.
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What? I am hoping I am just a little bit confused... Are you suggesting that Ryzen is only roughly 30% faster than the Pro?
Snoopy said:
Sure it can. Just dial back all the constraints that won't allow the game to run on Xbox Scorpio properly. No difference between mid/low end pc running games. A 2015 gaming PC can run the new games still, you just have to dial back.
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I have a 10 year old PC that can run new games still. It's going to be sub-1080P. But it can still run a large swathe of them.
Azzanation said:
It doesnt quite work like that. Sure next gen can play the games at a much higher level however old PCs can still run games today. I was running an i7 2700k and a 2gig GPU and played DOOM 2016 (which i couldnt believe i was running it, it was on low settings at 30 frames however it wasnt a broken game and i manage to play though the whole game). If Scorpio gets the support than dont be suprised that next gen games will release as waterdowned versions.
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I am still running Sandy Bridge. And it can still run every single game at 60+ fps without breaking a sweat.
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Yes it is slightly different on PC but not enough to exclude the possibilities to run next gen games on a 6tf console. 12gigs of Vram is more than any GPU available at this time on PCs unless we are talking way above $1000. Yes PCs use different pools however devs will mostly likely still use 4gigs to 6gigs of Vram for gaming. Which is more than enough for Scorpio to supply if they dont have to render 4k.
Today games only require 2gigs to 4gigs of video memory for the average customer. i dont see that number doubling anytime soon. Maybe bump up to 6gigs in the next couple of years.
Note i am referring to the minimal specs required, not the recommanded specs which use 6 and above.
