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thismeintiel said:
smroadkill15 said:

You know why Sony offered a powerful console at $399? BECAUSE OF MICROSOFT! Just because you and fellow Sony loyaltist don't want MS to stick around, the vast majority do. 

No.  Sony was already going with $399.  They didn't know what MS was doing until E3.  They were estatic that MS went $499 cause it meant they had the price advantage.  So, without MS, it would have still been $399.  And vast majority is definitely overstating it.  MS does not keep Sony in check.  The consumers do.  The drop from PS2 to PS3, mostly due to the high price, is what woke Sony up to having expensive custom HW isn't a good thing.

If the 360 didnt exist, many gamers would have no choice in buying a PS3 which would mean that the $800 price tag of the PS3 would have worked for Sony and that the PS4 would have continued the price hikes. Thanks to the 360 for putting Sony in there place last gen, we now have afforable next gen consoles. Dont assume Sony were going to lower the PS4 price based off no info. Sony was raising there prices on all the consoles every generation which means that the PS4 would have been the same until they started losing marketshare and customers. History proves this.

Did you know that the PS4 was rumoured to use 4gig of GDDR5 ram until leaks heard that the XB1 was going with 8gigs DDR3? If true than theres another benefit the Xbox did for Playstation.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/12/if-you-go-with-4gb-of-gddr5-ram-on-ps4-you-are-done-said-randy-pitchford/

Are you going to ignore all the things Sony took straight from the Xbox brand? Your going to act like we dont need Xbox?

Let me make a short list for you of the things that Sony took straight from MS/Xbox

PSN (Live) 

Trophies (Achievements) 

Home Button (Xbox 360 Controller)

Analog Triggers (Xbox 360 Controller)

Built in Harddrives (OXbox)

Built in Ethernet (OXbox)

Just naming afew things that help make Playstation better. Thats competition. Lets forget the things Sony took straight from Nintendo because that will require way took much time on my behalf.

You want competition or you will be taken advantage of.