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Miyamotoo on 09 June 2017
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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

But point is that itsn PR speech, all of their games that they were shown in January event will be relased this year. Of Course they could show some 2018. games. In January 2013. E3 2013. and E3 2014. they showed games in front because Wii U was doing terrible and they wanted to gave reason to people to buy Wii U and that Wii U start selling, but they dont need to that with Switch.

"Nintendo hasn't shown that they will be able to keep that momentum, not in terms of quality, but also in terms of quantity." You basically don't have any evidence for such a claim, actually all is showing they know what are doing and that they will keep momentum. Of Course that Nintendo showed they can keep momentum, 3 months after launch Switch is still selling great and they can't keep up with demand, that wanst case with GC. And Nintendo very clever scheduled their games so they have one bigger game every month, next month we are getting Splatoon 2 that is big systeme seller game. They almost certain have similar plan for next year too, its crazy to think just because Nintendo did not showed or want still show any 2018. game that they don't have anything for 2018.

No, those games are not "i want it to be true" but games that realistically we can easily see next year based on infos when last games were done buy Nintendo teams. Also most of them were already rumored.

Well bigger instal base could also bring some heavyweights. Even if doesn't bring heavyweights doesn't matter, DS, Wii and 3DS also didnt had most of heavyweights and still have great sales.

I wrote after SNES.

We will see, this is different because you have handheld and home console game in one.

It's PR speech when, not having games to show, they decide to change the way they approach E3. Strange coincidence!
Up until 2014 they acted this way: show what's coming this year and show what's coming next year.
So, yes, that new way of thinking WAS PR spin to sugar coat the (bad) truth: no games.

"You basically don't have any evidence for such a claim."
So, the lack of announced games for 2018, the clear intention of not revealing their 2018 plans is not enough for you?
Tell me what has been announced and if those are AAA Nintendo games or smaller Nintendo franchises. 'Cause i only know of Fire Emblem.

 

I'm not claiming they have nothing for 2018. What i'm "claiming" - and claimed in our last conversation - is that a) they have only announced Fire Emblem and b) they have shown zero intent in hyping people for 2018.
And if you think that they don't need to hype people because Switch is doing so well, then why do Sony and MS hype consumers? Specially, Sony. They have sold so much, why bother with hyping the following year?


DS and Wii had a new type of consumers that Nintendo can't and won't, as far as we know, regain them.
3DS sold well but compared to the last "normal" handheld, it sold less despite being in the market for, what, double the time?
Heavyweights are important. They make or break consoles (in normal circumstances).
Nintendo would kill for those games in their consoles!

Yes, it's different, but so far i haven't seen clear signs that 3rd parties see it that way.

Yes, "strange coincidence". :D  Of Course it's not coincidence, Nintendo before also had games that showed and released in same year, even in in that 2013. with SM3DW, and if it's just coincidence why we still didn't saw just one 2018. game!? Still not showing 2018. games and focus on 2017. games on E3 is evidence that they want much less time between announcement and release, not that they dont have any 2018. games (lol). Thinking that they didn't show any 2018. game because they nothing to show is totaly crazy, 2018. will come in 7 months and of course they have games for 1st half of 2018. that are nearly completed and that could be easily be shown.

 

Again, Sony/MS and Nintendo have different approaches, Sony or MS almost never announced and release game in same year. Nintendo don't want to talk about games that will be out in 2-3 years like Sony, MS or most of 3rd parties, they are focusing on games that will be out in near future. Switch is still selling great and Nintendo still cant keep up with demand, they don't need yet to hype people about 2018. because rest of 2017. is very strong and they want to hype them first for this year games. They will start hyping people about 2018. games when we are getting closer to 2018. Recent example of that Nintendo approach, Pokemon Tournament DX is announced last week and it will be out in just 3 months, we also having almost sure thing that Mario x Rabbids will be shown at E3 with release just 2-3 months later.

 

It doesnt matter, point is that they all sold great without heavyweights, that could easily be case for Switch also. Heavyweights are important if you have classic console like Sony or MS, they are not so important for Nintendo consoles because huge majority is buying Nintendo console for 1st party games, especially different type of consoles like Switch. Of Course it's better to have them in any case, but Switch can easily sell great even without them same like Wii, DS and 3DS.

Switch is just released recently so you need time to see sales, and still dont have some big 3rd party games available, but from what we saw most available 3rd party games are for now selling pretty good.