London bridge *Multiple Accidents* Breaking news multiple fatalities confirmed.

[ArchangelMadzz]

Aeolus451 said:

ArchangelMadzz said:

Most of what I have done is made factual statements against provably inaccurate claims. The fact you can't even concede to simple factual points has me wonder why I'm replying. 

First statement I replied to, Immagration is at fault for recent attacks in the UK. False, all known attackers in the UK have not been immigrants.
Second statement: Their mosque had something to do with it. False, their mosque reported them. 

Why are you making something so simple so difficult?

They were not factual statements especially when you keep trying to reword them to better argue against me. You provided no proof so drop the factual hogwash. 

When you let in immigrants that do not adapt and accept the ways of the society that they move to and they create these communities that are almost exclusively of them, it becomes an environment that's the perfect breeding ground to radicalize any disgruntled muslim in that country. So it is a immigration problem because a part of immigrating to another country is integrating into it's society, learning their language and adopting their values/ways. They are not being radicalized from over the net but rather in their neighborhoods. Terrorist groups/extremists need a lot of support from their communites to function. Turning a blind eye to them is aiding them. If every muslim turned in any muslim who was extremist or saying certain things, terrorism wouldn't be a problem anymore.

Just because a person within a mosque reported a few people within that mosque doesn't mean that some of the mosque don't agree with the extremists or agree with reporting them. 

So if you look at my original comments they weren't factual? Please tell me what the facts are otherwise.

The parents of the attackers have spoken out. They do not have criminal records. They speak english, They have worked jobs. 

Assimilation is important, I would assimilate to any society that I move to, if it's a society I wouldn't want to assimilate to (ie. Saudi Arabia) I wouldn't live there. But in this case, it isn't relevant as they did assimilate. 

But when they turn them in, nothing happens (that we know of). One of the attackers last night is already confirmed to have been on a watchlist after being reported by his friend. Our Police force has been cut considerably in recent years by the government, meaning with all the other duties they have, they don't have the manpower to effectively tackle terrorism without taking important resources from somewhere else. We are incapable of doing it because our police force has been sucked dry. The men and women of our police force are fantastic and dealt with it greatly. They just don't have the resources to effectively deal with this, that is a major reason why (as well as particular muslims being trash) this is happening. 

That's true. But it also doesn't mean you're allowed to assume the entire mosque is behind them, all we know is that they had reported him.