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[ArchangelMadzz]

Aeolus451 said:

ArchangelMadzz said:

Sigh. All but 1 were objective factual statements. 

1. I said the last 2 attackers here in the UK were born in the UK. They weren't immigrants. Factual statement.

2. There have been more Right wing terrorist attacks in the US in the past 10 years than there have been Islamic terrorist attacks. Factual statement. 

3. A watch list is meaningless because it obviously doesn't prevent terrorist attacks. The last 2 attackers here were on watchlists and it didn't do anything. Some facts behind it but watchlists being meaningless is my opinion as it doesn't prevent anything. 

4. I said the mosque of the manchester attacker reported him to the authorities for extremism. That is a factual statement.

You've made 0 points here. *facepalm gif*

1. No. That last bit you said immigration wasn't a problem. It is. Unvetted immigration without encouraging them to intragrate into the society they're migrating to is what is leading 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants becoming extremists. 

2. There has but it's alot less than terrorist attacks attempted but failed by radicalized muslims in the US. Anyway, you were trying say that islamic terrorism isn't a problem in the us compared to right wing terrorists. That's something only an apologist would say.

3. Again something only an apologist would say. Watch lists is a part of intelligence gathering which could lead up to preventing terrorist acts because you were watching them. Terrorist acts that are prevented never reach the news but do happen alot.

the chairman of the House homeland security committee heralded US successes against “over 60” would-be terrorist attacks by “Isis followers” in the last year.        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/19/chattanooga-isis-terror-plots-homeland-security 

4. You were talking about that mosque and others. "Their mosque's and others in their community reported them to the authorities under suspicions of extremism, that's why they were on a watch list." 

1. Their parent's aren't extremists. Vetting wouldn't have done anything to prevent them. Them becoming radicalised through online methods isn't an immigration problem, it's a, being an easily influenced idiot problem. 

2. I said Right wing terrorism is a bigger issue than Islamic terrorism in the US. Since when did I say neither was a problem. You're one of those people that when someone says they prefer pizza to burgers, think they automatically hate burgers. I can say Right wing terrorism is a bigger problem without saying Islamic terrorism isn't a problem.  Climate change and Poverty can be pressing issues at the same time.

3. That's true, we don't hear about foiled terrorist attacks that have been prevented from a watchlist. You're right about that. 

4. Yes THEIR mosuqes. IE. THE TERRORIST ATTACKERS MOSQUES. Not all mosques, jesus christ I don't need to spell out everything I'm not saying. Take my words for what they are. 

So what have we learned today?

Saying A is a bigger problem than B in county X doesn't mean that X shouldn't be concerned about B. 
Saying people that go to building AB did something good is not equal to saying Building CDEFGH are all good. 

Main point, stop adding extra clauses to my statements.