ArchangelMadzz said:
Birimbau said:
This is this the beginning of a new normal for Europe. At least UK will regain the control of its borders after leaving Europe Union of Socialist Republics.
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The last 2 terrorist attacks here have been from people born in the UK. Immigration didn't really have anything to do with it.
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ArchangelMadzz said:
quezkatolen said:
but their nearby mosque did, and thats where most of these immigrants hang. read the 9/11 report which obama censored for many years, it showed that CIA saw radical islamic organisations washing money through their local moques to radical muslims. apprently Obama found that offensive because he made it hidden for the public to see.
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You're talking about something you clearly know nothing about.
Their mosque's and others in their community reported them to the authorities under suspicions of extremism, that's why they were on a watch list.
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ArchangelMadzz said:
Qwark said:
Just a shame that putting someone on a watchlist in Europe is the equivalent of meaningless.
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A watch list for terrorism is sort of meaningless, seeing as you can't arrest someone until they've broken laws.
The manchester bomber could've easily looked up how to make a nail bomb on tor, or at an internet cafe and the government are unaware.
Also there's no real way of stopping people driving their car to go on the pavement and mow people over, unless you ban people from driving cars there isn't really much you can do.
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ArchangelMadzz said:
Qwark said:
Current privacy laws in the EU also don't help with fighting terrorism. But the real reason why attacks mainly occur in Europe is because Europe is weak, unwilling to takw harsh measures againat terrorism and quite pathetic even. All the terrorists from Paris to London where known by the police some where even under investigation. Yet they could travel to Syria and back freely and Europe isn't changing a thing and hopes these attacks just stop for some reason. There is a reason why terrorism in the US is a lit rarer than in Europe.
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-europe-left-itself-open-to-terrorism
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Islamic terrorism is rarer in the US. Right wing terrorism is your problem at the moment, we've only had one notable instance of right wing terrorism last year when an mp was killed.
Also the UK has it's own privacy laws, we're very unique in that way from the other EU countries. Our government got caught spying on us, then made it legal to exonerate themselves. Putting the UK in with your Europe narrative doesn't really work that way.
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ArchangelMadzz said:
Aeolus451 said:
That's an obvious strawman because basis in reality or have anything to do with this topic. You're one of the worst Islam apologists I've seen
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I was simply responding to his statement of 'There is a reason why terrorism in the US is a lit rarer than in Europe.'
Meaning terrorism isn't rare in the US, Islamic terrorism is rare in the US.
I'm probably a terrible islam apolgist because I'm not an Islam apologist.
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Oh really?
1. Immigration doesn't have anything do with it.
2. Right wing extremists is a bigger problem in the us than Islamic terrorism.
3. Watch lists of muslim extremists are meaningless.
4. Mosques report terrorist elements.
