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h2ohno on 30 May 2017
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Soundwave said:
h2ohno said:
Sorry, but the Wii brand was not anywhere close to dead in 2012. The Wii sold 500,000 units on Black Friday in 2011, despite there being practically no games other than Zelda all year. And the Wii was outselling the Wii U during much of 2013 despite Nintendo trying to push the latter. Wii was still a hit with consumers in the 2010s. The Wii U's problems are not because of issues with the Wii brand. They are because the average consumer didn't know what it was and those that had heard of it were confused.

Would a Wii 2 have sold 100 million units like the Wii? Probably not. But it would have still sold well and the lack of the gamepad would have allowed Nintendo to make the system more powerful to begin with.

It was decling by large degrees before 2012. 

The thing with fads is there is a decline though things will look ok, usually preceeding a very catastrophic bubble burst. You see this pattern in many fad like crazes ... see pop bands like Backstreet Boys, you usually see a decline in album to album sales and then suddenly after one album they can't sell for shit any more. 

Games like Zelda never really sold the Wii anyway ... Mario & Sonic Olympics sold the same as Twilight Princess on the Wii, lol. It was casual fare and Wii was still getting plenty of those titles like 18 Just Dance games a year, Zumba Fitness, Wii Party, Mario Party, uDraw, etc. etc. etc. 

There should not have been a decline at all just because Nintendo wasn't releasing like Metroid Prime 4 for Wii or something. 

We see the same thing with Kinect too ... Kinect was red hot for MS even through 2011, 2012 you see some troubling signs for it, by 2013 the craze is dead. 

I think a Wii 2 maybe would've sold like 25-28 million units ... better than the Wii U sure, but not a huge success. When people got sick of mini-game-a-thons, the whole Wii concept becomes pretty bankrupt. 

Declining sales when were on the market for 5 years already, had rediculously astronomical sales for most of that time, had already come close to 100 million units sold, and were now seeing major reductions in both hardware and software development, does not signal a bubble burst.  There is no counterfactual to test that the crowd that loved Wii Sports would not have bought a Wii 2 bulndled with a copy of Wii Sports hd.  Again, the Wii still sold 500,000 units on Black Friday 2011 and was outselling its successor through much of 2013 despite a severe lack of production of both consoles and games.  Demand was clearly there despite the console seeming to have reached market saturation.

In my opinion a Wii 2, with clear marketing and either being $100 cheaper or significantly more powerful than the Wii U, maybe a combination of greater power and $50 cheaper, would have outsold the XBOX 1 and that it would have taken the PS4 about 3 years to catch up to and overtake it.  I believe a Wii 2 would currently be sitting at around 50 million units sold after 4.5 years on the market and would now be beginning to see its own declines.